The RedBull gearbox is lower that's why. Almost as low as the Williams.hardingfv32 wrote:Does the bottom of the RB floor seem closer to the rear axle than Ferrari, thus more rake?
The beam wing also seems higher above the axle than the on the RB. Does this imply a critical relationship between the top of the diffuser and the beam wing? Is this a controlled measurement?
Brian
Considering no one has run on these tires before, I doubt anyone can fully optimize their suspension geometry to the Pirelli. The amount of changes a team might be willing to undertake is team dependent, and IMO little to do with what they had to start with....ringo wrote:Well if you considered they changed the geometry. You can say it was not optimal in the beginning.
I don't mean a little setup change like most teams do, but a whole new upright is a drastic change.
Those pictures show well how redbull's upper control arms are fairly level compared to the new A arms for the ferrari.
We can look on the angle of the pushrod as well. It is compromised by the small volume it has to crammed into on top of the gearbox.
Ferrari were lacking in the geometry, and made some changes to improve it.
Haven't seen much change with the redbull or Mclren in terms of new uprights to move the outer joint up by an inch.
According to Scarbs the change of rear suspension's geometry has more to do with the way tires are (mechanically) worked than aero benefitringo wrote:Well if you considered they changed the geometry. You can say it was not optimal in the beginning.
I don't mean a little setup change like most teams do, but a whole new upright is a drastic change.
Those pictures show well how redbull's upper control arms are fairly level compared to the new A arms for the ferrari.
We can look on the angle of the pushrod as well. It is compromised by the small volume it has to crammed into on top of the gearbox.
Ferrari were lacking in the geometry, and made some changes to improve it.
Haven't seen much change with the redbull or Mclren in terms of new uprights to move the outer joint up by an inch.
Yes, but this is because they forced the pusrods' bell cranks to be much closer to the center of the car and also with a agressiv forward sweep. This was for aero reasons, but it affected the mechanical side of things due to the rod angles. If you follow what I am saying.hankalis wrote:According to Scarbs the change of rear suspension's geometry has more to do with the way tires are (mechanically) worked than aero benefitringo wrote:Well if you considered they changed the geometry. You can say it was not optimal in the beginning.
I don't mean a little setup change like most teams do, but a whole new upright is a drastic change.
Those pictures show well how redbull's upper control arms are fairly level compared to the new A arms for the ferrari.
We can look on the angle of the pushrod as well. It is compromised by the small volume it has to crammed into on top of the gearbox.
Ferrari were lacking in the geometry, and made some changes to improve it.
Haven't seen much change with the redbull or Mclren in terms of new uprights to move the outer joint up by an inch.
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