I honestly think you're in fantasy land, they'd need to be carrying 30kg extra of fuel for that to happen, that's way more than they normally would in practice.HampusA wrote:Wait until after Q I´m sure Vettel or Webber will come out on top. 0.3 seconds clear i think.
If not, then it´s a testament to the other teams catching up big time.
The Cars are only faster on heavy DRS and KERS tracks. (Time loss on the straights more than make up for speed in corners) while last years cornering speed is very high.speedsense wrote:
RB needs to be hiding .6 secs.
Either the track is dirtier than last year
or the Pirelli's aren't as good here
or fuel loads are higher than last year.
Remember that the RB6's diffuser was already a compromise after double diffusers were banned. I'll take the RB5 diffuser any day – or better yet, the RB5 diffuser plus an extra year of Newey thinking.n smikle wrote:The Cars are only faster on heavy DRS and KERS tracks. (Time loss on the straights more than make up for speed in corners) while last years cornering speed is very high.speedsense wrote:
RB needs to be hiding .6 secs.
Either the track is dirtier than last year
or the Pirelli's aren't as good here
or fuel loads are higher than last year.
Sorta of topic, but I think the fastest "2000 and up era" car would be BMW V10 engine, F2007 body, RB6 front wings, RB6 double diffuser, Mclaren KERS, and RB7 DRS.
Maybe i am, but has Red Bull sandbagged before Q3 any other time?beelsebob wrote:I honestly think you're in fantasy land, they'd need to be carrying 30kg extra of fuel for that to happen, that's way more than they normally would in practice.HampusA wrote:Wait until after Q I´m sure Vettel or Webber will come out on top. 0.3 seconds clear i think.
If not, then it´s a testament to the other teams catching up big time.
The number of times RBR have caused an upset by being much faster in qualifying than expected... I don't remember. I can remember at least 2 times when McLaren have done it this season, and 1 where Ferrari have done it though.HampusA wrote:Maybe i am, but has Red Bull sandbagged before Q3 any other time?beelsebob wrote:I honestly think you're in fantasy land, they'd need to be carrying 30kg extra of fuel for that to happen, that's way more than they normally would in practice.HampusA wrote:Wait until after Q I´m sure Vettel or Webber will come out on top. 0.3 seconds clear i think.
If not, then it´s a testament to the other teams catching up big time.
Thought so
Never said it would bro!Poleman wrote:That being said means that the rest of them were driving on a dirty track as well... So that magic grip will not come to Fred only.Mr Alcatraz wrote:Fred is a talkative guy!HampusA wrote:Alonso said he struggled more then most in Sector 3.
How would you describe Sector 3?
Edit: Just checked and it seems Nando has problems with slow corners?
Did not expect him to struggle there as it has pretty good traction the car and is good on the brakes.
I mostly think he is blowing smoke, but he does say that the track was very dirty, and implies the car will handle better when it rubbers in
http://www.itv.com/formula1/news/2011/7 ... ront-7654/
Aha but that´s not what i´m saying. I´m saying RBR is sandbagging in FP´s.Poleman wrote:Since i remember RBR, so far this season and the previous one,everyone preety much expected them to be the fastest in quali regardless their FP times...Thats hardly an upset,even yourself for this grand prix,you still believe that they will come out on top.It would be surprising if you didnt expect them to be fast and yet claim pole,which is what Beelsebob said and he's right.So far this year at least noone expected McLaren and Ferrari to be fast at qualy at times,yet they surprised us a few times each.