Heidfeld's a gonner... Here comes Senna

[marcush.]

maybe the star of petrov is falling flat on its face when setup is not guided by Heidfeld?
That would have a severe knock on effect on the campaign and could reflect very well on Heidfelds quality in case Renault drops like a stone now...

[bot6]

It was a long time coming. Boullier has been shooting at Heidfeld in PR for some time now. Even though all the counter performances were more Renault's fault. Like the car catching fire for example.

It's all about money. Senna brings sponsors and media attention. And Renault F1 is broke. But who knows, maybe he'll prove worthy.

The overall performance of Renault will drop though, as they will lose the technical input of Heidfeld.

[ringo]

Personally, I'm glad Nick's going, I never really rated him..

Senna, in a black and gold Lotus Renault.. Wow that brings back memories.

But I won't be too surprised to see Roman G in the car soon enough, once he's secured the GP2 title...

let the good times roll!



faux senna in the house!!

[jamsbong]

Heidfeld is Mr. Consistent. He is more suited as a #2 driver with Kubica or other highly aggressive driver. Of course, since Senna brings in money to the starving Renault. Poor Heidfeld just have to go.

Although Heidfeld is not fast like Vettel or Kimi, he is a great overtaker! He can overtake better than the flamboyant Hamilton. Hamilton gets more attention mainly because of his aggression and often end up with unnecessary problems.

[ringo]

haha.

I was following you until you mentioned Hamilton.
He's good at overtaking yes.
He'd get more attention if he was more prolific at overtaking. But he's not.

If he was as good he'd win races in early 2008 when the bmw was a top a car.

I know Senna will do fine. Heidefeld, i like the guy as a driver, but f1 is tired of him. He's replacable, over the hill and boring, where as senna has more going for him.

Wrong or rightly even senna doubters are excited about the senna name gracing the track again.

[jamsbong]

I reckon there are 2 things that Heifeld lacks. First is natural speed, and second is lack of hunger. Once upon a time, Button was like that too, but after winning WDC with Brawn, he realised what it took to win and he realise the sweetness of winning the WDC.
Now Button despite lacking in natural speed which he can't improve. He counters with a wise strategic mind and takes opportunities when the weather changes. You can see Button WANTS to win.

Personally, I don't expect much out of Senna. But I really hope to be proven wrong though!

[wunderkind]

I reckon there are 2 things that Heifeld lacks. First is natural speed, and second is lack of hunger. Once upon a time, Button was like that too, but after winning WDC with Brawn, he realised what it took to win and he realise the sweetness of winning the WDC.
Now Button despite lacking in natural speed which he can't improve. He counters with a wise strategic mind and takes opportunities when the weather changes. You can see Button WANTS to win.

Personally, I don't expect much out of Senna. But I really hope to be proven wrong though!

Same, I don't think Bruno Senna will amount to much. For me, the only thing positive is to see the Yellow and Green helmet in a JPS-look-a-like Lotus Renault. That brings back a lot of good memories.

On the topic of Heidfeld, I think he just stuggled with the Pirellis too much. Also, the Renault is a dog.

[ringo]

Unfortunately for Heidfeld who is an ok driver; there aren't enough back marker teams for him to see out his career.
He's better than all the rookies now, as a package, but he's just old news and lacks promise.

[Donuts]

So they replace an Heidfeld that does not conform to what was axpected from him with a new guy and they are suddenly under fire? That is rubbish, Renault has all right to sack Heidfeld who has been disappointing all season. And also funny how you guys can see how disappointing Senna would be, he drove really well in lower classes and sure you can base his performance and F1 craft based on what he did in the HRT. I a, pretty sure Senna will do a good job in scoring points and being cosistent.

Now I would like anyone to explain why this is such a bad discision, Heidfelds career was over 2 times before Renault, you'd really expected that they would keep such a disappointing driver when there are young guys eager to drive in the formula 1. Heidfeld doesnt have anything to seek anymore in formula 1, why Renault even signed him in the first place is a mistery for me

I'm almost(not about Bruno Senna) of the same opinion, but why can't they wait(by that time their development of the R31 would have stopped) for two more races and put Grosjean or Senna in the car. How will they evaluate the updates at Spa? With two "rookies", one of which they admitedlly said not long time ago, has to be held by the hand around the paddock. They are showing their cards, up front, that they are weak financially and this is never good. They should be "flaing" the markeeting department for not finding a title sponsorship for almost two years!

[raymondu999]

I don't understand this. They have the backing of Lotus cars, and can afford to go to court with Fernandes for months on end to get the Lotus Renault name use, but can't afford a proper number one driver? This is a championship-winning team to boot.

[vall]

I don't understand this. They have the backing of Lotus cars, and can afford to go to court with Fernandes for months on end to get the Lotus Renault name use, but can't afford a proper number one driver? This is a championship-winning team to boot.

whom they can get? Kimi doesn't want back? If Bob's injuries are too bad and he cannot be back the same driver, perhaps they may try to get Massa or Webber for 2013....

As for Bruno, I would like to see him drive a proper F1 car for a few races. Everyone judges him from the year in the poor Hispania car...

[FrukostScones]

Renault-Lotus RIP!

Long live Williams-Renault!

[marcush.]

anyone thinking Senna will be eye to eye with petrov this weekend ?
anyone thinking Grosjean will be the one to beat petrov after Monza ?
Hopefully petrov can bag a few more points...but their season is dead now methinks.

[Petroltorque]

I'd say Senna would have to be within half a second of Petrov. I have doubts about his ultimate speed.

[wesley123]

I'm almost(not about Bruno Senna) of the same opinion, but why can't they wait(by that time their development of the R31 would have stopped) for two more races and put Grosjean or Senna in the car. How will they evaluate the updates at Spa? With two "rookies", one of which they admitedlly said not long time ago, has to be held by the hand around the paddock. They are showing their cards, up front, that they are weak financially and this is never good. They should be "flaing" the markeeting department for not finding a title sponsorship for almost two years!

I agree on this mark. Development is going to be a bit of a downer, although we do not know how Heidfeld was. Senna is a young guy and a young guy lacks the knowledge that an older guy has.

Sponsorship doesnt bother me even that much, we are in a bit of a downward going economy, 90% of the companies have to change their build up, sack people and so fort, how are you going to liberate that you pay 150 million dollars on sponsorship per year but on the other hand has to sack 1000 people? Sponsorship is hard to find these days, title sponsorship will be even harder.

Although I can agree with everyone that Senna in the car is more marketing then racecraft, I sure have no doubts of Senna's ability. Problem Senna has here is that he is a replacement, people expect him to do better then Heidfeld and if he is a bit slower then Petrov people will talk badly about him, causing Senna's carreer to be over before it has even started.

Petrov on the other hand(people tend to say he is crap and such) is showing really well, he has grown up compared to last year and imo he is pretty quick, and that in an enviroment he barely knows and a language he barely speaks. Petrov now has the chance to shut everybody up by just shredding Senna apart.