Not just recover, but also, concussion can make you do both very odd and very normal things. I'm very surprised the Marshals didn't grab him immediately, to stop him doing something bug nuts.Just_a_fan wrote:I think it depends on the person and the severity of the impact that rendered them unconscious as to how long they're out and how they recover.
Or play like actors ...Giblet wrote:Suddenly 'waking up' then standing and properly extracting yourself from the car while having the presence of mind to deal with the steering wheel and walk away with perfect balance were not the actions of someone who was just knocked out.
I'm not ruling it out, but sometimes people deal with rage by doing nothing.
Of course, but for the most part, people don't react logically when they come around. The example you cited showed someone who did not have presence of mind as they ran away on a busted leg in full-on fight or flight mode. The seatbelt was an obstacle to be overcome.Just_a_fan wrote: I was "first on scene" at a road accident once. Car had hit a railway bridge pier. Both occupants unconscious. The driver woke up fairly quickly, looked around, undid his seat belt before trying to get out of the car. It was only the fact that his leg bent 45deg sideways halfway below his kneee that stopped him going any further. The passenger remained unconscious for several minutes and took a long time to come round once he started to wake up. He hadn't been wearing a seatbelt.
I think it depends on the person and the severity of the impact that rendered them unconscious as to how long they're out and how they recover.
We need to remember that racing drivers have lots of crashes in their careers and self-extraction is probably almost instinctive. Hamilton may not even have realised he was getting out of the car even whilst he was doing it.
He made no indication that is visible to the marshal that he was okay. The marshal immediately signaled to someone and the SC was called out immediately. Afterwards he didn't mention Kamui by name as the person he hit and didn't name him until after he had seen the replay. He was clearly unconscious. No driver with their wits about them will voluntarily hit another barrier without trying to avoid it, even Kimi pushed the tires off him after spearing into them at Monza a few years back. Lewis was out, or very very close. Recovery from being knocked out or very close differs from person to person. You see that in professional boxing all the time. Some guys can recover instantly and still defend themselves intelligently and others can't.Giblet wrote:Suddenly 'waking up' then standing and properly extracting yourself from the car while having the presence of mind to deal with the steering wheel and walk away with perfect balance were not the actions of someone who was just knocked out.
I'm not ruling it out, but sometimes people deal with rage by doing nothing.
If these guys are fitter than a world class boxer, I'd believe it - many will interview minutes after getting KO'd.Giblet wrote:Suddenly 'waking up' then standing and properly extracting yourself from the car while having the presence of mind to deal with the steering wheel and walk away with perfect balance were not the actions of someone who was just knocked out.
^^^Are we even talking about Lewis...?Giblet wrote:I'm not ruling it out, but sometimes people deal with rage by doing nothing.
Friendly question. Have you by chance watched any professional MMA fights? I've seen many fights where one guy was hit hard enough to buckle his knees and their eyes go dead, then recover the instant their knuckles hit the mat and hit the other guy hard enough to knock him out cold. All within 10 seconds of the initial hit.Giblet wrote: Of course, but for the most part, people don't react logically when they come around.
I actually do MMA, and have been knocked out once or twice, I can tell you that you don't remember the actual knockout, and when you wake up it's like waking from a deep sleep.Ray wrote:Friendly question. Have you by chance watched any professional MMA fights? I've seen many fights where one guy was hit hard enough to buckle his knees and their eyes go dead, then recover the instant their knuckles hit the mat and hit the other guy hard enough to knock him out cold. All within 10 seconds of the initial hit.Giblet wrote: Of course, but for the most part, people don't react logically when they come around.
Which is why I believe he was knocked out. He didn't know who was involved until after he saw a replay. Thanks for your insight too, I've not been knocked out before but I've come very close a few times.ajdavison2 wrote: I actually do MMA, and have been knocked out once or twice, I can tell you that you don't remember the actual knockout, and when you wake up it's like waking from a deep sleep.
You do MMA too?ajdavison2 wrote: I actually do MMA, and have been knocked out once or twice, I can tell you that you don't remember the actual knockout, and when you wake up it's like waking from a deep sleep.
