Italian GP 2011 - Autodromo Nazionale Monza

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Lorenzo_Bandini
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Kers problem for Webber

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http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... s=6895&p=3

Really strange that RB is so fast in S3.

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HampusA
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Anyone else noticed Vettel´s line out of Parabolica?

everyone went left as much as they could yet he cuts in shorter and enters the straight between the grid spots.

Same deal out of Ascari where Schumi, Rosberg, Senna all maximized every bit of tarmac there.
At some point though you probably travel longer by going so wide then someone keeping the left tires on the white line out of the turn.
The truth will come out...

Lorenzo_Bandini
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Vettel has the slowest straight line speed, the same for both Mclaren. It's better for Webber, and both Ferrari are the fastest.

It's seems Massa and Alonso will eat both Mclaren tomorrow..

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Rosbergs tyre choice is really a bold gamble and hats off for trying this.
My guess is he expects noone of the front guys to make it on one stop and no one going for three .
This way around the front runners will need to run long time on medium tyres and suffering from slowish lap times when the car is at its best in the last 10 laps .

Roberg will not go for a long stint but wear out the mediums giving no quarter stopping with the first soft runner .This will net a distinctive advantage as the truth is you can rarely exploit the soft tyre in a useful way in the first stint as you are in the queue and the guy in front is determining your speed.So if it´s possible to just stay with the ones in front for those 5 laps and dive into the pits as soon as the gap starts to open too much he will have a chance for a surprise .
He has two fresh sets of softs so that alone is ana advantage of at least half around half a second per lap comparing it to a used set which has lost its edge already...plus the fact he will be on softs when others have to run mediums so that could account for a gain of 15 seconds in the last stint...assuming he will
not lose much ground in the first stint due to a bad start or staying out too long
this strategy should propell him into striking distance to the podium.
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Lorenzo_Bandini
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Massa 342.3
Alonso 342.2
Webber 336.1
Button 333.1
Hamilton 332.7
Vettel 327.7

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HampusA
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I think Mclaren will be a sitting duck in lap 1 and 2.
The truth will come out...

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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:
Massa 342.3
Alonso 342.2
Webber 336.1
Button 333.1
Hamilton 332.7
Vettel 327.7
Freakin sweet 8)
Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand

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n smikle wrote:RedBull was working some magic in sector 3. Rumor that the car makes up 0.7 seconds in that sector - with DRS on!

Know we know which car is the most aero efficient...
Grateful to whoever posts the sector times when they come out.
Absolutely right. Before nearly every race we get the same deluge of posts about how [name of track here] is the track where RB will be beaten. But they (almost) never are. Aero is everything in F1, and no one does it better than Newey. It seems to me it would be smart for McL and Ferrari (and M-B and Renault)to look to the aerospace industry for some young aero geniuses. The new engine formula might chnage things, but as long as aero is king, Newey will have the throne. (NO, I am NOT a Newey fan -- unless Ferrari signs him!)
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Speed trap:
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Guys don't forget there are two DRS zones, long straights, and the cars behind Vettel, and the two Maccas have almost 20 kph on them, and they at best will lose two to three tenths down the Lesmos and the parabolica. I have a feeling Ferrari will keep up just fine in the race, as the lead car can't get on the DRS through the exit of every turn.
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Building on godlameroso's point, DRS has upset the monza applecart.

The tangent between race pace and out and out 1 lap speed could be great here at monza. Rear wing angle and DRS efficiency along with the slipstream effect could be massive here. Using DRS for an entire lap against using it for overtake opportunities is day and night. We also don't know the tyre wear rates of those with skinnier wings to those with higher downforce levels.

It could be a classic case of tortoise and hare tommorow, at least I hope that's the case. I don't think anyone wants to see Vettel have an easy ride tommorow.(Horner excluded)
More could have been done.
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Can somebody explain in a technical way why the top three cars in quali, that also have the lowest topspeed, have a disadvantage in the race ?

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Afterburner
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Top speed is not that important has some might think, i remeber at the old hockenheim circuit, Arrows had the best top speed but they kept at the bottom of the field.

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Pierre6 wrote:Can somebody explain in a technical way why the top three cars in quali, that also have the lowest topspeed, have a disadvantage in the race ?
Very generally speaking, it means they are carrying more downforce, and therefore more drag. This is fine in qualy when no one is chasing you, but in the race when everyone behind is so much faster in a straight line, on a track which is predominately straights, it tends to mean that your going to get mugged by the cars behind you who are so much faster.