Mercedes GP 2011

[wunderkind]

I was just commenting on the some of the previous posts regarding Bell and Gascoyne working together.

Why would bell be leaving mercedes and go to a lesser outfit such as team lotus? It doesn't make sense. we have yet to see Bell's W03 and Costa will not arrive until early 2012 because of his gardening leave. I don't think Costa's arrival will have any bearing on Bell's role unless more Ferrari personnel join Mercedes. it probably makes more sense for Brawn to put Costa in a future projects R&D role in anticipation of the new regulations.

Also, there are no other championship-contending teams looking for a technical director. I think Bell will stick around for a few years to come.

As for Dyer, I don't know. If Brawn is such an effective pit lane operations and strategy boss, then what's the need in bringing Dyer to the fold? Unless, Brawn is planning his own eventual departure in a few years time...............

[marcush.]

Finally the two Mercedes camps found their own pride and decide to go for different tactics in Monza.
It took them the best part of two years...to realise that going in different directions startegy wise will open new windows of opportunity and broaden your view in a very detailed ways.
The race in Spa which was a extreme case of strategy difference -but caused by circumstances not a choice theya made- just showed how important it is to be on the correct rubber in the race compared to track position at the start of the race...rosberg was leading but in the end was beaten by Schumacher who started dead last...

[Morteza]

Finally the two Mercedes camps found their own pride and decide to go for different tactics in Monza.
It took them the best part of two years...to realise that going in different directions startegy wise will open new windows of opportunity and broaden your view in a very detailed ways.
The race in Spa which was a extreme case of strategy difference -but caused by circumstances not a choice theya made- just showed how important it is to be on the correct rubber in the race compared to track position at the start of the race...rosberg was leading but in the end was beaten by Schumacher who started dead last...

Where they have found that piece of mind allowing them to risk their strategy has kept me scratching my head It's a good sign anyway.

[Mr.S]

I think either Mundenges is a complete hater who wants to belittle Merc with his bunch of boys or he is just trolling.


Costa was never a hands on complete FACTORY based Technical Director,neither is an aero specialist as that is the most important thing in today's cars. Costa is more of a manager with his speciality being the mechanical side & he could easily slot in as the HEAD of VEHICLE ENGINEERING.

Costa was never a Newey type guy & I dont think the question of ego's count here. Both Bell & Costa aren't egoistical & dont mind taking a step back. In this case Bob Bell is going to be the Technical Director for the next few years until he comes for a crap car in consecutive years. Bob Bell is here to stay & if Costa comes he would slot in like sugar in water.


I just also wish Prodromou joins Merc somewhere down the road as Head of Aerodynamics as Merc is badly behind in aerodynamics.

[Mr.S]

Finally the two Mercedes camps found their own pride and decide to go for different tactics in Monza.
It took them the best part of two years...to realise that going in different directions startegy wise will open new windows of opportunity and broaden your view in a very detailed ways.
The race in Spa which was a extreme case of strategy difference -but caused by circumstances not a choice theya made- just showed how important it is to be on the correct rubber in the race compared to track position at the start of the race...rosberg was leading but in the end was beaten by Schumacher who started dead last...

Well MSC's race pace has always been on par if not superior to Rosberg. I think they should have gone for the softs on Rosberg & see if he can qualify on P6-P7. Rosberg is an ace qualifier & Ive got a feeling they should have reversed the stratefy. MSC is a good racer with decent overtaking abilities & should have started on the hards with 2 softs.

Rosberg is the better qualifier & could have got P6 odd & with a decent start & good straightline speed there would have been a slim chance of a podium.

[mep]

I just wonder why they have not put Rosberg on the softs because he seems to be faster in qualy and could have slowed down the front for a while (Mercedes-train-tactic).
Well I must admit they managed to disappoint me once again (1,5s behind that Renault engine). Hopefully the last time this season because this is the last track where they have a slight chance to win a wooden cup.

[Mr.S]

Indian GP has big straights & the average speed will be second to Monza,probably the longest straight of the season. Sector 1 & 3 have little need of aerodyanmic downforce. However I'm guessing Red Bull will open up a 1 full second gap in Sector 2 of Indian GP.

[marcush.]

Schumacher is overall the better first lap guy I think .So his chances to find a way to the front in this race are not much worse than Rosbergs in Spa ..So the Mercedes train could work this way around as well .
This time the guy on the mediums is starting from a top 10 position though ....surely Nico will not be able to gain many positions till the first stop ,but maybe he can keep those in front just in sight .the worst scenario would be of course MS having a soso start and not be able to squeeze into the top 3.

[Mr.S]

Vitaly is a scary prospect along with Bruno. With them near the worst scenario is heading into the pits on LAP 1.I am happy that they have choose to gamble rather than go for generic strategies.

Another 5th-6th position is possible,maybe slightly better.Saving Options was a very good idea. I reckon they will be very agressive today. 2 STOPS is more than enough for Monza with brand new tyres.

[wunderkind]

I think either Mundenges is a complete hater who wants to belittle Merc with his bunch of boys or he is just trolling.


Costa was never a hands on complete FACTORY based Technical Director,neither is an aero specialist as that is the most important thing in today's cars. Costa is more of a manager with his speciality being the mechanical side & he could easily slot in as the HEAD of VEHICLE ENGINEERING.

Costa was never a Newey type guy & I dont think the question of ego's count here. Both Bell & Costa aren't egoistical & dont mind taking a step back. In this case Bob Bell is going to be the Technical Director for the next few years until he comes for a crap car in consecutive years. Bob Bell is here to stay & if Costa comes he would slot in like sugar in water.


I just also wish Prodromou joins Merc somewhere down the road as Head of Aerodynamics as Merc is badly behind in aerodynamics.

I totally agree with you.

I also think Prodromou is the man Mercedes needs to get on board ASAP. But if Prodromou is out of bounds, who else should be considered? There is definitely a shortage of good aero guys these days.

[Mr.S]

I think either Mundenges is a complete hater who wants to belittle Merc with his bunch of boys or he is just trolling.


Costa was never a hands on complete FACTORY based Technical Director,neither is an aero specialist as that is the most important thing in today's cars. Costa is more of a manager with his speciality being the mechanical side & he could easily slot in as the HEAD of VEHICLE ENGINEERING.

Costa was never a Newey type guy & I dont think the question of ego's count here. Both Bell & Costa aren't egoistical & dont mind taking a step back. In this case Bob Bell is going to be the Technical Director for the next few years until he comes for a crap car in consecutive years. Bob Bell is here to stay & if Costa comes he would slot in like sugar in water.


I just also wish Prodromou joins Merc somewhere down the road as Head of Aerodynamics as Merc is badly behind in aerodynamics.

I totally agree with you.

I also think Prodromou is the man Mercedes needs to get on board ASAP. But if Prodromou is out of bounds, who else should be considered? There is definitely a shortage of good aero guys these days.

We were the one's screaming for quality people & now that they have recruited Bell & may recruit Costa we should not be bitching about it. Atleast lets give them a chance & lets give Merc time. Lets not bury them before even Costa is recruite because all such talks are still in the air.Let's see how competitive W03 is then we should consider whether Costa is a threat to Bell.

Abour Prodromou he will be an even better addition than Costa but if he does not come I dont know who can fill that space. James Key is not a Head of Aero guy & would not want to play 3rd fiddle to Bell & Costa.I dont see Merc poaching ferrari or Mclaren.

I would like them to recruit a big section of Force India's engineers because considering their size in manpower & facility they should be absolutely nowhere near Merc but are doing very well. Even with James Key leaving,they have maintained their position while I thought they will be competiting with Lotus this time.Force India has a few top quality engineers.

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[Pierce89]

I was just commenting on the some of the previous posts regarding Bell and Gascoyne working together.

Why would bell be leaving mercedes and go to a lesser outfit such as team lotus? It doesn't make sense. we have yet to see Bell's W03 and Costa will not arrive until early 2012 because of his gardening leave. I don't think Costa's arrival will have any bearing on Bell's role unless more Ferrari personnel join Mercedes. it probably makes more sense for Brawn to put Costa in a future projects R&D role in anticipation of the new regulations.

Also, there are no other championship-contending teams looking for a technical director. I think Bell will stick around for a few years to come.

As for Dyer, I don't know. If Brawn is such an effective pit lane operations and strategy boss, then what's the need in bringing Dyer to the fold? Unless, Brawn is planning his own eventual departure in a few years time...............

Are you calling MGP a "championship-contending team"? I love the Merc name. but even I'm not that optimistic.

[wunderkind]

Mercedes maybe a distant fourth at the moment. But it's on it's way of becoming a championship-contending team.