Hunt for the records in the remaining races

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With the championship officially wrapped up now, although it was becoming pretty obvious for a while now, watching the remaining races will no longer be to see who becomes champion. The most interesting driver battle will be Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton duking it out for second in the championship. While Sebastian Vettel isn't fighting anyone else anymore, he is fighting the record books however.

Here is an overview of the formula one records that can still be equaled or beaten this year, as well as some trivia. Records already held and set this year (Vettel, points in a season; Barrichello, race starts; Hamilton, overall penalties) are not included. At the end of the year, I will write one big article with everything that has been rewritten in the (top 10) record books this year.

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Japanese Grand Prix
At the 2011 Japanese Grand Prix, Sebastian Vettel added 1 pole position, 1 front row start, 17 laps in the lead, 1 podium finish and 15 world championship points to his racing record.

Having not won the race, leading all laps, and not setting the fastest lap, Sebastian Vettel did not become the second driver in history to win the championship with a Grand Slam. He did become the 6th driver in history to become world champion in Suzuka, after Nelso Piquet (1987), Ayrton Senna (1988, 1990, 1991), Alain Prost (1989), Damon Hill (1996), Hakkinen (1998, 1999) and Michael Schumacher (2000, 2003). Although Sebastian Vettel can no longer beat the 2004 record of most wins in a season, when Michael Schumacher drove his Ferrari to 13 race wins, he will still be able to equal the record this year. Vettel will however no longer be able to beat Alberto Ascari’s record of 7 consecutive wins this season.

For the record, I included a few more abstract records to make a possible and fairer comparisson between Vettel in 2011 and Schumacher in 2002. I don't actually consider them notable records, but just to shed an interesting light on it, with the different points system.
  • Most wins in a season
    Current record: Michael Schumacher, 13 wins in 2004
    Vettel: 9 wins, 13 wins possible
  • Most pole positions in a season
    Current record: Nigel Mansell, 14 poles in 1992
    Vettel: 12 poles, 16 poles possible
  • Most wins from pole position in a season
    Current record: Nigel Mansell, 9 doubles in 1992
    Vettel: 8 doubles, 12 doubles possible
  • Most starts from front row in a season
    Current record: Ayrton Senna in 1989, Alain Prost in 1993 and Damon Hill in 1996, each 16
    Vettel: 14 front row starts, 18 front row starts possible
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/360x241/manual/gallery_image_main_43_7.jpg[/img]
  • Highest percentage of points in a season
    Current record: Michael Schumacher, 144/170=84.71% in 2002
    Vettel: needs to score at least 79 more points, scoring at least 403 out of 475 points to score 84.84%
  • Most podium finishes in a season
    Current record: Michael Schumacher, 17 podium finishes in 2002
    Vettel: 14 podiums, 18 podiums possible
  • Most laps in the lead in a season
    Current record: Nigel Mansell, 694 laps lead in 1992
    Vettel: 599 laps lead thus far, 823 laps lead possible
  • Highest percentage of laps lead in a season
    Current record: Jim Clark, 71.47% of laps lead in 1963
    Vettel: 67.15% (599 out of 892), needs to lead at least 211 more laps this season
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_left/hof_profile_left_125.jpg[/img]
  • Most consecutive pole positions
    Current record: Ayrton Senna, 9 consecutive pole positions from 1988 Spanish GP to 1989 US GP
    Vettel: 4 poles, 9 consecutive poles possible this year
  • Most points between first and second in the championship
    Current record: Michael Schumacher (144), scoring 67 points more than second place Rubens Barrichello (77) in 2002
    Vettel: currently 114 point lead, can finish third every race, behind Button winning to still take this record
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_left/hof_profile_left_7.jpg[/img]
  • Highest percentage points difference between first and second in the World Championship
    Current record: Rubens Barrichello scoring 46.53% less points than Michael Schumacher in 2002
    Vettel: Currently, Button has scored 35.2% less points than Vettel. While impossible to calculate all the possibilities, Vettel will need to win all the remaining races, with Button scoring just 16 points to beat this record.
  • Most points between first and second in the championship (in race wins)
    Current record: Michael Schumacher's 67 point lead over Rubens Barrichello in 2002 equalled 6.7 race wins
    Vettel: Currently has a 114 point lead, which equals 4.56 race wins. To beat this record, he needs to extend it to a 168 point lead in the next 4 races.
  • Most finishes in a season
    Current record: Tiago Monteiro (2005), Nick Heidfeld (2008) and Felipe Massa (2010) with 18 finishes. Of these, only Heidfeld finished 100%, but he is not the only one in history.
    Vettel: 15 finishes, 19 finishes possible
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/360x241/manual/gallery_image_main_45_11.jpg[/img]
  • Most team pole positions in a season
    Current record: McLaren (1988, 1989), Williams (1992, 1993) and Red Bull (2010) with 15 pole positions in one season.
    Red Bull: 15 poles, 19 poles possible this year
  • Highest percentage of team pole positions in a season
    Current record: McLaren (1988, 1989) and Williams (1992, 1993) with 15 out of 16 pole positions in one season, or 93.75%.
    Red Bull: 15 poles, 18 poles needed to take the record with 94.7% this year; 100% poles also possible
  • Most drive-through or stop-and-go penalties in a season
    Current record: not yet known, but no more than 4
    Hamilton: 3 drive-through penalties, 4 races left
Records that will still stand after 2011:
  • Highest percentage of wins in a season
    Current record: Alberto Ascari, 6 out of 8 races in 1952, 75%
    Vettel: even if he wins the next 4 races, 13 out of 19 wins is 68.4%
  • Highest percentage of pole positions in a season
    Current record: Nigel Mansell, 14 out of 16 poles in 1992, 88%
    Vettel: even if he qualifies on pole in the next 4 races, 16 out of 19 poles is 82.2%
  • Highest percentage of wins in a season
    Current record: Michael Schumacher, 17 out of 17 podiums in 2002, or 100%
    Vettel: even if he finishes on the podium in the next 4 races, 18 out of 19 podiums is 94.7%
  • Highest percentage of starts from front row in a season
    Current record: Ayrton Senna in 1989, Alain Prost in 1993 and Damon Hill in 1996, each with 16 out of 16, or 100%
    Vettel: even if he qualifies on the front row in the next 4 races, 18 out of 19 front row starts is 94.7%
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/360x241/manual/gallery_image_main_265_2.jpg[/img]
Trivia:
  • Of all the Formula One champions currently on the grid, Jenson Button is the only one that has never been a runner-up in the championship. This might be his first. His second-best championship result at this moment is his 3rd place finish in 2004 with the BAR-Honda.
  • If the only drivers to win the remaining 5 races in 2011 are Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton, or Michael Schumacher, this will be the only year in history in which all the races have been won by champions. Although in 1950, 1953, 1963 and 1993, all races were won by drivers that would at some point become champion, but were not yet at the time.
  • Sebastian Vettel is most likely the driver with most Grand Prix wins with most different helmet designs, something probably held by Michael Schumacher after adding some stripes in 1994 and switching from blue top to red top in 2000, thus winning races with two helmet designs.
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_left/hof_profile_left_40.jpg[/img]
Point system trivia:
  • If the 2004 season -in which Schumacher got the most points in one season-record by the old points system- had been driven by the 2011 points system, the record would have been 367 points; to beat that, Vettel needs 43 more points in 4 races. (For those curious, 2002 Schumi would have had 362 points)
  • If this season was driven by the 2002 points system, in which the then-record of 144 points was set, Vettel would now have 121 points. If he finishes 2nd in every race left this year, he will be able to beat that. He can also win one more race, come second twice and finish 6th once.
  • If this season was driven by the 2004 points system, in which the then-record of 148 points was set, Vettel would now have 133 points. Finishing fifth in the remaining races of this year is enough to beat that.
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Dear God we have a statistician on our hands
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Red Bull can also get 100% pole positions this season. I don't think that's ever been achieved.

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you're right Gerhard - it hasn't.
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All those "most in a season" records need to be a % to allow comparison between different length seasons.

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@richard:
That's why I added the percentages either as a seperate record, or to 'records that will survive 2011'.

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I'm betting these stats are exactly what Vettel has hanging on his bedroom wall.

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Sjoe! :o
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mnmracer wrote:@richard:
That's why I added the percentages either as a seperate record, or to 'records that will survive 2011'.
How did I not see that? #-o

Sorry

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I can't believe I'm replying to this but... :oops:, actually, I don't think Schumacher held the "record" for most races won with different helmet designs for long. Alonso won the 2003 Hungarian GP with his original Renault helmet. I'm not sure the 2005 is different enough, but the 2006 one may be (the "spanish" stripes are now tilted). The 2007 McLaren one is certainly different, though, as is the Renault 2008 that won Singapore an Fuji. The Ferrari helmet may break the deal though.

Has Vettel won all his races with differnt helmet designs this year?
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Vettel gives away all of his helmets that have won races to suppliers, mechanics etc so I'd probably say yes
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Firstly, since I can't edit the first post anymore, I've asked a mod to update it, so it'll be updated soon.

As for the helmets, I only counted the main design, not sponsorship things and so. It's just a funny stat, and honestly I didn't look into it too much. Next update, I'll mention Alonso (and you, thanks!), but it will slowly fade out, since it's not really that noteworthy. When I wrote it, it was just after I had a 'discussion' about it.

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Since there is some technical delay in getting the first post updated, you can find the updated situation in the 'Hunt for the records' after the Grand Prix of Korea here.

Changes in the 'Vettel's hunt for the records' after the Korean Grand Prix
At the 2011 Korean Grand Prix, Sebastian Vettel added 1 front row start, 53 laps in the lead, 1 victory, 1 podium finish, 1 fastest lap and 25 world championship points to his racing record.

When Vettel missed out on pole position, he also missed the chance to tie this year with Ayrton Senna for the record of most consecutive pole positions, which was 8 in between the 1988 Spanish and 1989 United States Grand Prix. By winning, he will still be able to equal Schumacher's season record of 13 race wins in 2002. While the Japanese Grand Prix put a dent in his chances for catching the record for most lap led in a season, and highest percentage of laps led in the season, the 53 laps he led the Korean Grand Prix put him back in the run. He needs just 43 more laps in the lead to beat the overall record of Nigel Mansell in 1992. To beat Jim Clark's 'percentage laps led in a season' record, he will need to get busy though: he must lead all but 27 laps in the next 3 races to beat that record.

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2011 KOREAN GRAND PRIX STATISTICS
  • This is Sebastian Vettel's 20th win, 34th podium finish and 8th fastest lap. With 20 wins, he is now ranked 12th in all time driver wins, tied with Mika Häkkinen, while his 8th fastest lap is the same amount as James Hunt, Gilles Villeneuve and Ralf Schumacher scored in their careers.
  • Lewis Hamilton scored his 19th pole position and his 40th podium finish, with which he has now caught up to Jenson Button. His 19th pole position ranks him 13th on the all-time pole position list.
  • Mark Webber scored his 29th podium finish, clearing him from Ralf Schumacher and now having the same amount of podiums as Clay Regazzoni.
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/447x283/sutton/2011/d11kor2128.jpg[/img]
  • In 1992, Nigel Mansell scored a by then unbelievable 9 race wins in one season, which was equaled only by Michael Schumacher 3 years later in 1995. Only Ayrton Senna came close before that, with 8 wins in 1988. Of course we all remember what Schumacher did in 2002 (11 wins) and 2004 (13 wins). With Vettel's 10th season victory, there are now only two drivers in Formula One history to have scored more than 9 wins in one season, and both are German.
  • Leading for all but two of the laps in Korea, Sebastian Vettel has now led 651 of the 947 laps in the 2011 season. This is 5 more than Michael Schumacher in the complete 1994 season (which had 1046 laps), and creeps him up to Nigel Mansells 694 laps led record in 1992.
  • With Red Bull winning their second constructor's championship, they have become 8th team in history to win more than 1 constructor's title, having the same amount of titles as Cooper, Brabham and Renault.
  • Finishing in seventh, Jaime Alguersuari equalled his career best result. With team mate Sebastien Buemi finishing two places behind him in ninth, this is the best team result of Toro Rosso since the Australian Grand Prix in 2009, where Buemi finished seventh and Sebastien Bourdais finished eigth.
  • McLaren celebrated their team's 700th Grand Prix start in Korea. Only Ferrari has been arond for longer, with 828 Grand Prix starts.
  • In those 700 Grand Prix's, McLaren won 174 races (24.9%), set 147 pole positions (21.0%), set 148 fastest laps (21.1%) and finished on the podium with at least one car in 376 races (53.7%).
  • [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/447x283/sutton/2011/d11kor2207.jpg[/img]
  • With all the calculators in Maranello being used to design a championship-winning car for next year, Ferrari decided to celebrate what they thought was Felipe Massa's 150th Grand Prix start, in the wrong race. Felipe packed his helmet for 151 Grand Prix (entries), but only started 149 of them, not starting the 2005 United States Grand Prix in his Michelin Sauber, or in the 2009 Hungarian Grand Prix after losing a game of dare with a spring coming from Rubens Barrichello's Brawn car.
  • Lewis Hamilton scored his first pole position since last year's Canadian Grand Prix, being the first non-Red Bull driver since Nico Hülkenberg in last year's Brazilian Grand Prix to train on pole position.
  • This ended Red Bull's streak of 16 consecutive pole positions, the third longest streak of consecutive pole positions by a team in history, after Williams' 24 poles from the 1992 French Grand Prix to the 1993 Japanese Grand Prix, and McLaren's 17 poles from the 1988 German Grand Prix to the 1989 German Grand Prix.

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Awesome stats...thanks... 8)
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I prefer to see the original posts unchanged, then we can see how things have progressed.

Simply click "quote" on your original post and update the numbers. It would help if you put a line at the top briefly highlighting the changes.

For example......

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I have updated the data following the Korea GP. Interesting to see how Vettel is no longer able to claim the most hot dogs in a bun, while Hamilton has crept ahead on the eating M&Ms.
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  • Most wins in a season
    Current record: Michael Schumacher, 13 wins in 2004
    Vettel: 9 wins, 14 wins possible
  • ...... etc