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Jenson Button has won the Japanese Grand Prix after taking the lead through the second phase of pitstops. Fernando Alonso put up a late charge but came short 1.5s to win the race. Sebastian Vettel secured third place, good enough for his second consecutive World Championship. Well deserved!
Would have been a funny repeat of Senna's WDC winning move.archiebald wrote:The one point in this race that stood out for me was the atrocious driving by Vettel at the start. He has a history of this and really needs to be slapped down.
Anyone else would have had a drive through.
Absolutely disgusting.
I just wish that Button had been less gentlemanly, tapped his back wheel and sent him into the barriers ala Kobayashi/Hamilton in Spa.
Lol, I'm loving "yes, it's very difficult to play tennis on a motorbike".raymondu999 wrote:Ted Kravitz's "From the pit lane" piece
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqhxWND1BZw[/youtube]
http://badgergp.com/2011/10/alonsos-jap ... BB+News%29WhiteBlue wrote:
A great comment, I could not have said it any better, but that is the disadvantage of not being a native speaker.
I wonder why people who are fans of one great driver feel the need to talk down their best competitors. Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso and Button are all very worthy champions as they have shown over and over again. They deserve our admiration for driving at a very high level and extracting incredible levels of performance from their cars.
Personally I don't like Alonso and I don't cheer for him but that has never stopped me to admire his talent and ability. He is one of the great drivers on the grid and he has gone through his fair share of character building since he was humiliated by his McLaren experience. I'm still no fan of his but I admire the determination he demonstrates and the way he takes even the smallest opportunity to get a better position. A true racer. Ferrari can rely on him to always get the best out of the car. He very seldomly has a bad day or makes serious mistakes.
Seb Vettel definitely belongs in the same group of drivers with the unbelievable qualifying performance he has extracted out of the Red Bull. The Bull has not always been the superior car and by far not by the margin it used to have last year. But Vettel typically qualifies several tenth of a second above his team mate, who himself has a reputation as a qualifying specialist. Right now I think there is nobody on the grid who excells in one lap speed as Vettel does. Qualifying this weekend was a pretty good example for that.
Satire?archiebald wrote:....
A demonrtration of real force'sraymondu999 wrote:Alcatraz - I'm not sure how your link relates to WB's post
The point is that Alonso did it very quickly!archiebald wrote:Nope,richard_leeds wrote:Satire?archiebald wrote:....
perfectly serious. When you force a competitor who has his wheels alongside yours onto the grass then that surely contravenes the racing regulations.
This is exactly what I meant.. It has come full circle now!n smikle wrote:WhiteBlue wrote:Wishful thinking of a Hamilton fan IMO. We know how good Vettel is and no talking down will change that.n smikle wrote: Maybe the real Vettel we will see next year if Mclaren, Ferrari and Merc do a good job and we get more close races.I was not referring to his performance, I was referring to his character. Only a few drivers both past and present shake their fists at other drivers. And those drivers are usually painted as the "bad guys."andartop wrote: Let us not forget this was a championship deciding race. Remember how poorly others have performed under similar pressure, ie Lewis in Brazil 2008, Button in Brazil 2009, Webber and Alonso in Abu Dhabi last year..
Even though Vettel has been driving for 5 years, we still don't know who is really is. Maybe having won those two WDC his is more confident with expressing his feelings. I think that shaking of the fist was a sign of things to come in the future.
I have my views of what his true character is but I will watch and see if it really what I think it is.
It has nothing to do with fist waving. It's another delusional attempt to bring down Vettel for no reason other than to soothe the raw nerves of seeing Lewis get his ass soundly kicked this season by everyone in at the sharp end of the field. Especially his teammate who gets all kinds of flack for enjoying racing for McLaren and getting results that don't come along with childish bleating and controversy. Par for the course really.raymondu999 wrote:Do help me out here smikle - where exactly does the video talk about waving fists at back markers?
