check it out.Red Bull have devised a clever way to maintain tyre temperatures in the garage...
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Team: Adrian Newey (CTO), Petr Prodromou (CA), Christian Horner (TP)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (1), Mark Webber (2), Daniel Ricciaro (31, Reserve)
check it out.Red Bull have devised a clever way to maintain tyre temperatures in the garage...
As always, interesting thoughts Ringo. Keep this in mind along with what you've stated .. maybe the open DRS gives them a better balance in certain cornering situations. Especially in a fast corner such as 130R, balance is everything .. way more important than total DF. And this leads us to .. how important is an optimal run thru 130 R worth to optimizing your lap times in Suzuka? Given that it ties the two longest straights together I would say it's the number one corner on the circuit. I also seem to remember a lot of the offs there happen on the entry which would indicate that the corner is "pushy-understeery" on entry. Just a thought ..ringo wrote:Not really. Say the car was setup for light fuel, or heavy fuel.
The car's behavior will change with the change in fuel. Whichever you set up for, the car will either be behaving sub optimally at one phase, meaning too much DF setting or too little. Whatever the situation is.
There is too little i know to really conclude on something without confirmation, such as from Mark Webber. But maybe it was in the rules already.
whatever the case, it's amazing that once again, like Turkey 2010 turn 8, the redbull is in a class of it's own.
Which is faster though,
130 with DRS and less downforce or 130R without DRS and more downforce?
Wouldn't lack of DRS in the turn in tomorrows race suggest it is being taken with surpluss grip?
Is this a compromise for the race?
And a very interesting one =D> =D> =D>Just a thought ..
Yes; but they'll be full throttle there. The whole bone of contention was whether or not they would be full throttle; while opening DRSringo wrote:Not really. Say the car was setup for light fuel, or heavy fuel.
The car's behavior will change with the change in fuel. Whichever you set up for, the car will either be behaving sub optimally at one phase, meaning too much DF setting or too little. Whatever the situation is.
There is too little i know to really conclude on something without confirmation, such as from Mark Webber. But maybe it was in the rules already.
whatever the case, it's amazing that once again, like Turkey 2010 turn 8, the redbull is in a class of it's own.
Which is faster though,
130 with DRS and less downforce or 130R without DRS and more downforce?
Wouldn't lack of DRS in the turn in tomorrows race suggest it is being taken with surpluss grip?
Is this a compromise for the race?
Perhaps I'm being dense but doesn't this mean they are illegal? Have they since nullified those rules or is this just a gray area interpretation?
F1.com wrote:Red Bull have devised a clever way to maintain tyre temperatures in the garage. The FIA long ago banned systems designed to do this by heating the inside of the wheel rim, as introduced by Toyota in Canada 2005. Since Belgium this year, however, Red Bull have been placing a small, pre-heated aluminium cylinder (right) inside all four brake ducts...
So Toyota heated the wheel rim what was then forbidden. RBR heats the brake discs with applications that aren't attached to the rims and do not infringe parc fermé rules.FIA Technical Regulations wrote:12.4.5 No wheel material is permitted in the following exclusion zones :
- A concentric cylinder of diameter 305mm and length 115mm positioned with its inner face lying in
the same plane as the inboard face of the front wheel ;
- A concentric cylinder of diameter 305mm and length 25mm positioned with its outer face lying in the
same plane as the outboard face of the front wheel ;
- A concentric cylinder of diameter 305mm and length 100mm positioned with its inner face lying in
the same plane as the inboard face of the rear wheel ;
- A concentric cylinder of diameter 305mm and length 30mm positioned with its outer face lying in the
same plane as the outboard face of the rear wheel.
Correct.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:@ Breezy
I believe the wing Vettel had was one of a kind. During practice it was noted to be the better option of the 2 and when he trashed the wing, it left Red Bull with 2 options.
a. Race with the "old wing"
b. Ship out another wing if possible.
Red Bull went with b of course, but you can bet that they had a few spare wings in case the new one didnt make it in time(rumoured to have arrived a few minutes before the start of practice 3 - Twitter).
Well the bits needed to make the wing "new" again.Intego wrote:Dr. Marko said on RTL that they assembled the wing in half an hour which usually takes an hour. So they didn't fly out the whole wing.
All cars perform better in clean air rather than dirty air. I don't see any evidence to suggest it is worse at following other cars then say the Ferrari or the Mclaren.MIKEY_! wrote:The car seems to perform much better in clean air (as against in dirty air) so getting ahead in qualifying will take priority over actual race pace. You could say it is a defensive race strategy. The car is worse than others chasing someone but better than others when being followed.
Hope that made sense.