Korean GP 2011 - Yeong-Am International Circuit

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Crap pit strategy for Webber. Again.

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lebesset wrote:I found it hard to believe that he hadn't had a fastest lap all year , but if your car is so fast that you are cruising it isn't necessary I suppose ; bet mark has had a few on principle though
Not quite true. He had a race hat trick in Valencia
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RB7ate9 wrote:
CHT wrote:Anyone know what is the function of the blue button which Hamilton was told to use towards the end of the race?

Was it something to do with conserving fuel again?

Surprise to see Merc and Ferrari running out of fuel at the end, and if this continues, I dont see how they are going to have a chance to catch RB8 next year.


Has Adrian Newey stopped attending race to concentrate on RB8?
I was wondering about that as well.

I figure it is either some sort of fuel conservation mode, or a button increasing the revs - perhaps to keep Webber away? I thought there was a similar communication to another driver (Alonso, maybe) about push-to-pass.

I thought I saw Newey on the pitlane, but it could have been someone else. It makes sense that he would devote more time to the RB8, now that both championships are clinched.
Blue button has usually meant a higher fuel mix for the McLarens. Yellow is even higher.

BBC reported that Adrian Newey didn't come at all to Korea as he felt his time was better devoted to the RB8...
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raymondu999 wrote:
RB7ate9 wrote:
CHT wrote:Anyone know what is the function of the blue button which Hamilton was told to use towards the end of the race?

Was it something to do with conserving fuel again?

Surprise to see Merc and Ferrari running out of fuel at the end, and if this continues, I dont see how they are going to have a chance to catch RB8 next year.


Has Adrian Newey stopped attending race to concentrate on RB8?
I was wondering about that as well.

I figure it is either some sort of fuel conservation mode, or a button increasing the revs - perhaps to keep Webber away? I thought there was a similar communication to another driver (Alonso, maybe) about push-to-pass.

I thought I saw Newey on the pitlane, but it could have been someone else. It makes sense that he would devote more time to the RB8, now that both championships are clinched.
Blue button has usually meant a higher fuel mix for the McLarens. Yellow is even higher.

BBC reported that Adrian Newey didn't come at all to Korea as he felt his time was better devoted to the RB8...
Thanks for the info!

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raymondu999 wrote: Blue button has usually meant a higher fuel mix for the McLarens. Yellow is even higher.

BBC reported that Adrian Newey didn't come at all to Korea as he felt his time was better devoted to the RB8...

This is taken from Mclaren website. I believe it should be referring to the button 'T'.

Below the blue toggle switch is a big blue button labelled “T”, which is assigned to a setting used regularly at a given race. To the right of this is a yellow OT button, used to maximise revs when the car has a good slipstream behind another and has an opportunity to attempt an overtake.
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I suspect then it's "T" and "Over-T"

I just had a wild imagination - "Ok Lewis; white button please" :P
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raymondu999 wrote:I suspect then it's "T" and "Over-T"

I just had a wild imagination - "Ok Lewis; white button please" :P
And out shoots some Red Bull to slake Hamilton's thirst :o !

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raymondu999 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUEjccLMots[/youtube]
Good stuff from Ted. I like Ted's approach to interview, he is not pushy like Martin is. I guess Martin Brundle is a senior figure with lots of political influence in F1.

Vettel really has a talent to please interviewers. I know if I was interviewed by anyone, my mind will be filled with confused thoughts and no one will understand my answers. He is brilliant.

Thanks for the link Raymond.

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cheers mate. Don't forget Ted does it in relatively "free" time while Martin has to keep to a strict timeline; and Ted does it when everyone is relaxed and packing up
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jamsbong wrote:Vettel have everything covered again! This is the type of racing driver that I rarely see.
At the start, he knew that is when everyone had to be cautious as the tyre's grip is not familiar so that is the best chance to go aggressive and he went for it. Then he did well to build a gap so that Hamilton won't have the advantage of DRS. He made it look easy but I think he had plan this well after quali. He had to be aggressive and make it count even if it is against Lewis, he got the job done.

Then spots of rain and safety car came to attempt to ruin Vettel's day but like a typical Double Champ, he overcome such issues and made it look easy. He is definitely driver of the day for me.

Hamilton was a surprise for me. I thought he would runaway after such great quali performance. He was "dancing" at the edge of traction. Was Vettel sand bagging? Or was Lewis being told NOT to be a "bad boy"? I want to see Lewis feeling confident that he can attack and be smart enough to know that the attack won't end up him visiting the stewards office.
Red Bull are on the record as saying that in Japan and Korea they sacrificed up 8 tenths of quali pace to increase their race pace. It really seems like every time I think Macca has caught Red Bull up I'm proven wrong. Monza really blew me away.
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Pierce89 wrote: Red Bull are on the record as saying that in Japan and Korea they sacrificed up 8 tenths of quali pace to increase their race pace. It really seems like every time I think Macca has caught Red Bull up I'm proven wrong. Monza really blew me away.
no one really know the true potential of the RB7 except for their engineers and drivers. The fastest lap time on lap 55 is a good example of what RBR is hiding.

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Pierce89 wrote:
jamsbong wrote:Vettel have everything covered again! This is the type of racing driver that I rarely see.
At the start, he knew that is when everyone had to be cautious as the tyre's grip is not familiar so that is the best chance to go aggressive and he went for it. Then he did well to build a gap so that Hamilton won't have the advantage of DRS. He made it look easy but I think he had plan this well after quali. He had to be aggressive and make it count even if it is against Lewis, he got the job done.

Then spots of rain and safety car came to attempt to ruin Vettel's day but like a typical Double Champ, he overcome such issues and made it look easy. He is definitely driver of the day for me.

Hamilton was a surprise for me. I thought he would runaway after such great quali performance. He was "dancing" at the edge of traction. Was Vettel sand bagging? Or was Lewis being told NOT to be a "bad boy"? I want to see Lewis feeling confident that he can attack and be smart enough to know that the attack won't end up him visiting the stewards office.
Red Bull are on the record as saying that in Japan and Korea they sacrificed up 8 tenths of quali pace to increase their race pace. It really seems like every time I think Macca has caught Red Bull up I'm proven wrong. Monza really blew me away.
I remember hearing them say that in Japan, but not in Korea... any links to said quote?
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raymondu999 wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:
jamsbong wrote:Vettel have everything covered again! This is the type of racing driver that I rarely see.
At the start, he knew that is when everyone had to be cautious as the tyre's grip is not familiar so that is the best chance to go aggressive and he went for it. Then he did well to build a gap so that Hamilton won't have the advantage of DRS. He made it look easy but I think he had plan this well after quali. He had to be aggressive and make it count even if it is against Lewis, he got the job done.

Then spots of rain and safety car came to attempt to ruin Vettel's day but like a typical Double Champ, he overcome such issues and made it look easy. He is definitely driver of the day for me.

Hamilton was a surprise for me. I thought he would runaway after such great quali performance. He was "dancing" at the edge of traction. Was Vettel sand bagging? Or was Lewis being told NOT to be a "bad boy"? I want to see Lewis feeling confident that he can attack and be smart enough to know that the attack won't end up him visiting the stewards office.
Red Bull are on the record as saying that in Japan and Korea they sacrificed up 8 tenths of quali pace to increase their race pace. It really seems like every time I think Macca has caught Red Bull up I'm proven wrong. Monza really blew me away.
I remember hearing them say that in Japan, but not in Korea... any links to said quote?
If I may...http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/en_ ... 3104775511
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That's pretty amazing, and makes complete sense. You have to hand it to RBR this season. Not only have they been driving well and keeping technically ahead, they have been able to think so far ahead in terms of the race weekend that from what seemed like a falter, came a dominant win.

Great team, all around.

And kudos to raymond and traction for the great links.