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As it stands, from the end of the 2011 rules, there is no limit on tip height, and there is no Ban on V ridges, but the point at which the curvature of the nose begins is 15cm earlier than in 2011, so noses will be a bit lower, but it won't be a massive difference.raymondu999 wrote:If you're talking of loss of rear downforce I think this wouldn't be good for wear/graining, yes, but will be good for degradation. The Pirellis this year seem to degrade in an inversely proportional manner to pace (i.e. going through a corner faster degrades them more) which was one of the things that seems to have caught out Red Bull at circuits where they were expected to dominate like Suzuka or Silverstone - they were going through corners so fast that it was hurting tyres. But yes wear/graining would probably go high.
However does anyone know how the rules are worded? Does it only specify that the TIP of the nose has to be below axle height? Or how does it word it? For example, are RB5/6 style nose ridges; which are much higher than the RB7's nose ridges, allowed?
I seriously dont know how you can make such comments...a good laugh though...Traction wrote:The combination of the lowering of the nose height and the banning of blown diffusers is going to result in a huge loss of traction if I am not mistaken. The teams will have to focus a lot more on teh rear wing for downforce. Will this increase the degradation rate of the tyres?
Not that I am aware of, I think that comes into effect in 2014, but I'm not sure, we can't be certain of anything until the 2012 regs are released, which will probably be in around December.raymondu999 wrote:Wait so the nose tip DOESN'T have to be lower than the axle just yet?
Maybe you could care to explain to us why you think Traction's post is worth laughing at?LotusF1 wrote:I seriously dont know how you can make such comments...a good laugh though...Traction wrote:The combination of the lowering of the nose height and the banning of blown diffusers is going to result in a huge loss of traction if I am not mistaken. The teams will have to focus a lot more on teh rear wing for downforce. Will this increase the degradation rate of the tyres?
I thought the same too at first; and I talked to Scarbs earlier in the year; with him saying as such; but I was told by another member (who I can't for the life of me remember, in another thread, I think) that it wasn't.Tozza Mazza wrote:Not that I am aware of, I think that comes into effect in 2014raymondu999 wrote:Wait so the nose tip DOESN'T have to be lower than the axle just yet?
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 9/887.html'Ferrari tried a lot of new components in Hungary on Friday, even some aero solutions that could be useful on the 2012 car, which will have a differently shaped cockpit. Both Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa tested this front wing, which features an additional upper-deck flap absent on the regular configuration.'
Yeah, seems strange!raymondu999 wrote:Funny that. I seem to remember seeing the 2014 regs floating around the FIA website, but not the 2012 ones yet...
@ScarbsF1 wrote:Lower nose in 2012, full low nose in 2014. It's in the FIA regs on their website
They're not there, however at the bottom of the 2011 regs, there is a section on changes for 2012.raymondu999 wrote:From Scarbs on Twitter:@ScarbsF1 wrote:Lower nose in 2012, full low nose in 2014. It's in the FIA regs on their website