Ferrari 150° Italia

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Oh did they set the fastest time with that wobbly wing on, I didnt realise that. Not that it means much as it was clearly illegal.

No actually it's not. It passed and is in compliance with the regs. Sorry to disappoint.

[dave34m]

Oh did they set the fastest time with that wobbly wing on, I didnt realise that. Not that it means much as it was clearly illegal.

No actually it's not. It passed and is in compliance with the regs. Sorry to disappoint.

Really, do you have a link for that.

[PlatinumZealot]

It is very important to note that the whole car was vibrating too - bumps from the track or just aero fluttering maybe.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Oh did they set the fastest time with that wobbly wing on, I didnt realise that. Not that it means much as it was clearly illegal.

No actually it's not. It passed and is in compliance with the regs. Sorry to disappoint.

Really, do you have a link for that.

Don't need one. How about the fact Scuderia Ferrari(Alonso) wasn't disqualified during for the Korean GP. It's the same wing Alonso ran during the race therefore it passes the FIA's test. Again, sorry to disappoint. Move on.

[dave34m]

Oh so the wing that Alonso used in Korea passed the tests and you say this is the same wing. Well that has cleared it all up nicely, thanks for that.

[Mr Alcatraz]

What does Scarbs have to say about this freakin' thing?

[scuderiafan]

As the car goes down the straight, the wing doesn't seem to oscillate much, then under braking it has obvious oscillation, and through the corner it calms down. The rear wing was also vibrating, which makes me think that the front wing of the Ferrari is flexible, and that the nature of the track exacerbates it's flexibility. Definitely odd.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Oh so the wing that Alonso used in Korea passed the tests and you say this is the same wing. Well that has cleared it all up nicely, thanks for that.

Dude you're exposed already. Let me explain it for you the same way I would my 4 year old.

Ferrari:---> http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... ice-2.aspx

Noida, 28 October – The Ferraris of Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso set the fastest (1.25.706) and third fastest (1.25.930) times of the second session of free practice for the Indian Grand Prix. The third last round of the Formula 1 world championship is scheduled for Sunday at Noida’s all-new Buddh International Circuit. Sandwiched by the two Ferraris was the Red Bull of world champion Sebastian Vettel, with the second fastest time (1.25.794). In this afternoon session, which both Ferrari drivers ended with some practice starts, the team concentrated on a comparison between the two wings and tested the Hard and Soft compounds of tyre brought by Pirelli on different fuel loads. On the helmets of both Felipe and Fernando there are two stickers dedicated to the memory of Marco Simoncelli and Dan Wheldon, the MotoGP rider and the IndyCar driver who passed away in the last two weeks.


Now here is the old wing, if you bother to look for any pictures before Korea you will see this is the Ferrari wing used most of the season, that was run in India by both drivers. Notice Large curved endplate, with three separate elements.



Here is the new wing Alonso first ran in Korea. Notice no large curved endplate and no longer 3 elements, on 2 elements with one slot. Below is Scarbs article about the new wing:





http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/10/1 ... s-summary/



Now here is the wing you saw Massa using, which of course is the same wing Alonso used in the Korean GP which obviously passed FIA regs:




Here is Massa using the old wing:



So you can see, as Ferrari stated, both drivers were testing both wings. Both wings of which pass FIA compliance tests. And you are welcome, I'm here to help. Good day sir.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

What does Scarbs have to say about this freakin' thing?

@ScarbsF1 Craig Scarborough
Ferraris new wing was flexing in Korean, clearly its doing the same if not worse over the bumps in India. It passes the FIA deflection test
14 hours ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1

[dave34m]

Well thats incredible that the FIA could deem that wing to be legal. They really have to look at their tests, they are making a joke of themselves. Its laughable

[Mr Alcatraz]

What does Scarbs have to say about this freakin' thing?

@ScarbsF1 Craig Scarborough
Ferraris new wing was flexing in Korean, clearly its doing the same if not worse over the bumps in India. It passes the FIA deflection test
14 hours ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1

Thanks my man.

[dave34m]

Floppy wing on massas car agian, its not the same wing from Korea, apparently its a development of that wing that they are trying. So much for the experts

[myurr]

Floppy wing on massas car agian, its not the same wing from Korea, apparently its a development of that wing that they are trying. So much for the experts

He didn't say it was the exact same wing, he said their wing was flexing in Korea and that it's flexing even more in India.

[myurr]

The interesting thing for me is that the amount of flex in the wing is clearly tuneable somehow. They're using the flexing wing but whilst it was flexing today it clearly wasn't flapping all over the place to the extent it was yesterday, so they've made it stiffer. How would they do this?

Structural inserts through the core of the wing? Adjusting tension in a cable that runs through the core? I'd be amazed if they could make any changes to the carbon fibre itself without compromising the aero profile of the wing through building up more composite on the outside.

The only other explanation is that they've taken off some front wing angle so that it doesn't generate as much downforce, which in turn would lead it to flex less, but I would have expected that to be a big compromise to the setup of the car.

[dave34m]

Floppy wing on massas car agian, its not the same wing from Korea, apparently its a development of that wing that they are trying. So much for the experts

He didn't say it was the exact same wing, he said their wing was flexing in Korea and that it's flexing even more in India.

Yep, thats what Scarbs said, but would Ferrari have had the develpment wing tested?, I'm not sure but Scrabs does get a lot of good inside info.
I was talking about the comment
"Now here is the wing you saw Massa using, which of course is the same wing Alonso used in the Korean GP which obviously passed FIA regs:"

What sort of info could Ferrari have been getting out of running a wing that was all over the place like that?