ESPImperium wrote:scuderiafan wrote:Tyler wrote:I think di Resta's overrated and I'm expecting him to be beaten soundly by Hulkenburg next year.
Most of the great drivers beat their teammates in their rookie year.
Saying that someone is only slower because they don't have as much experience is not always true in F1 - as I said good drivers already have their speed in their first year - take at a look at Hamilton and Alonso for example
You can't be serious. For one thing, di Resta was racing in the DTM for four years before he set foot in Formula One. Hamilton came straight out of GP2, and Alonso from F3000. Sutil has had years of experience in F1, not to mention the Force India team, so it should be expected that he outscores di Resta.
I believe that the drivers for Force India next year will be close in terms of points, but I doubt Hulkenburg will beat di Resta soundly.
Fair enough, I tried looking for rookies who beat their more experienced teammates in their rookie year and to be honest they were few and far between
All I can think of really is Schumacher and Senna and Hamilton.
But look how close Hamilton and Alonso were in Hamilton's debut year.
I just don't think you can assume that di Resta would have finished ahead if he had had more experience.
di Resta was certainly not slow this year and it was no easy feat to finish ahead of him - I think Adrian deserves some more credit for this - he achieved exactly what he was supposed to, which was to finish ahead of di Resta.
To expect him to finish with double the points of a quick young guy like di Resta just because he has more experience is unrealistic and unfair.
Sutil should have been given another year to prove himself and to at least give him a chance to prove he's quicker than Paul, it's the least they could do, given that his performances this year are what enabled the team to take 6th place.
The guy met all of the teams objectives, I think it was unfair to drop him
Team mates that were out performed in their rookie year by their more experienced team mates include;
Jenson Button, 12 points to Ralf Schumachers 24 (2000)
Fernando Alonso, P11 to Marques P9 (2001)
Fellipe Massa, 4 points to Heidfelds 7 (2002)
Kimi Raikkonen, 9 points to Heidfelds 12 (2001)
Nico Rosberg, 7 points to Mark Webbers 12 (2006)
Nico Hulkenberg, 22 points to Rubens Barichelos 47 (2010)
A look at that list, and a look at the fact if you get out performed in your rookie year means you dont achive much in the sport is simply an assumption. That list shows that you can only go on to win championships in the long run.
Always judge a rookie driver to his second year performances, as if he gets more points in his second to his first year he is progressing, and ideally he should have at least 10% more points in year 2 to year 1 to be showing a decent ammount of progression to my estimation. So Force India should expect to see him with arround 30 or more points next year to be satisfied. However if they as a team dont finish with at least 80 points they dont have the driver line up right. So id expect a major improvement from both Paul and Nico next year, if they get a car good enough to mix it with the Lotus cars next year. If they arnt m,ixing it for P6 ro P10 regularlyy ill be disapointed.
A Spanish/German boyband - yes it will surely be worse!!!!
