HRT F112 Cosworth

[beelsebob]

Unless you asume every person of the team are complete loners and have nothing to search in Valencia anymore I cannot seem to understand how every team member is willing to move by themselves, girlfriends, families or w/e, in a new city at least 300km away.

Especially for a company that's only barely staying afloat – why would you take that risk?

My bet is that hrt here is an HRT astroturfer, sent out to try and drum up positive image for the team.

[Trocola]

Just wondering...

Has HRT talked to Petrov? With half the money he brought to Renault, HRT would be safe


Trocola

[cbbcisace]

Supposedly Petrov is the front runner for the 2nd seat now.

I don't like all this bickering but if HRT get the '12 car to Barcelona before Marussia and equipped with KERS as it will be, it that an achievement in its self.

Also HRT will be at Jerez, where as Marussia missing it completely?

Funny how Joe Saward isn't reporting about Marussia since they are a "British" based team (and I'm British)

[ESPImperium]

Petrov has the Pirelli role at present, and is seemingly gearing himself uf for a period of Pirelli testing. He seemingly turned down the Hispania seat, or rather his backers did.

One wild rumor today was that it could be an Argintine driver, one that would have been in F1 in 2010 if it were not due to the folding of a certain US based F1 team. Yes, you heard it, Jose Maria Lopez seemingly has a budget, again.

If the team are wanting to be taken seriously they will not want, and will take a young driver like VdG, even Karthekeyn would be more sensible. However i can see the team trying to whore out the second seat, posibly try and get 2 drivers to pay between them the money they need, €6m is what they would need for the first 5 races, so of they can get 2 drivers to pay €12m thats the first half season, each driver gets 5 races 2 on-2 off and FP1 on the races they arnt to keep them "warm".

It could work out that way.

They usually change the second seat at Half way anyways, 2010 saw Yamamotto replace Senna then Chandhok before Klein took his seat, they got €500,000 per race from Yamamotto and Klein. 2011 saw Riccardo replace Karthekeyn, and Liuzzi for India, those 11 races set Red Bull back €10m.

Ive been listening to what Peter Winsor said on The Flying Lap, and feel that Hispania could replace the second seat before the end of the season, i have a feeling that Williams may just take a small punt and put Bottas in the Hispania in return for making Hispanias transmission and KERS supply for 2012 free. This figure is seemingly €4.5m for a transmission supply and €2.5m for KERS. So say €7m for the last 7 GP for Bottas, i think a sound investment, if he impresses in the FP1 sessions in Sennas car.

[cbbcisace]

I thought Petrov wasn't the Pirelli driver.

JML was rumoured quite a long time ago but accordingly his backers turned down F1 again.

Personally its between van der Garde who brings (€6-8m) and Petrov (€8-10m) for me.

With Kolles gone I can't see HRT changing driver's if they wan't to be taken seriously.

[cbbcisace]

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... xj9gPLylUA

And is that the team is working very hard to get a competitive car: "The team is being restructured and strengthened constantly. It has opened a new base in Spain where the mechanics, engineers and cars. The Design Office and the Department Aerodynamics are in Munich. We are all a new group, but the main difference to 2011 is that we have a better organization, better aerodynamic specifications and a small but efficient department, which did not exist before. "

The pilot experience has been achieved over the years has been in McLaren may be key to the development and evolution of his new team: "For my part I think it's time to apply everything I learned over the years in foreign teams McLaren class as to grow with HRT. No doubt my experience is one of my best assets that will make the most in this new stage of my career. "

[hrt]

my preferences:

1. PDLR
2. Giedo or Petrov
3. Karthikeyan

[ledzep4pm]

Funny how Joe Saward isn't reporting about Marussia since they are a "British" based team (and I'm British)

That's probably because the HRT owners seem to have no clue, they have an idea of being an all Spanish team, and are sacrificing competitiveness to that end.

Meanwhile the owners of Marrusia know what they are doing, John Booth and Manor are very experienced. They realised their mistake with Wirth Research and are now being sensible and using Pat Symonds to set up there own design team. They are producing a conservative car this year to establish the new team just like Lotus Racing/Team Lotus/Caterham did.

[Gridlock]

my preferences:

1. PDLR
2. Giedo or Petrov
3. Karthikeyan

My preference would be one F. Alonso

[marcush.]

Funny how Joe Saward isn't reporting about Marussia since they are a "British" based team (and I'm British)

That's probably because the HRT owners seem to have no clue, they have an idea of being an all Spanish team, and are sacrificing competitiveness to that end.

Meanwhile the owners of Marrusia know what they are doing, John Booth and Manor are very experienced. They realised their mistake with Wirth Research and are now being sensible and using Pat Symonds to set up there own design team. They are producing a conservative car this year to establish the new team just like Lotus Racing/Team Lotus/Caterham did.

First of all ...Marussia has delayed the car already .so this speaks volumes about them being on top of anything...after declaring the 2011 car a hopeless piece of s..t changing to Mclaren throwing out Wirth ..and now claiming the car was mechanically very competitive equivalent to a good midpack car ...and only lacked behind due to poor aero..

We can conclude a proper Windtunnel programme would have produced what was needed??? but now they started basically everything new and who knows if that is any better ...I´m not convenced that Marrussia is any better than HRT.

[hrt]

First of all ...Marussia has delayed the car already .so this speaks volumes about them being on top of anything...after declaring the 2011 car a hopeless piece of s..t changing to Mclaren throwing out Wirth ..and now claiming the car was mechanically very competitive equivalent to a good midpack car ...and only lacked behind due to poor aero..

We can conclude a proper Windtunnel programme would have produced what was needed??? but now they started basically everything new and who knows if that is any better ...I´m not convenced that Marrussia is any better than HRT.

+10

[wesley123]

my preferences:

1. PDLR
2. Giedo or Petrov
3. Karthikeyan

I think only Petrov can be the one that is serious of this list. PEdro de la Rosa is a test driver, not a racing driver, in an competitive environment he isn't good enough.
Giedo van de Garde hasnt achieved anything in lower classes, and claims this lack on results on 'bad luck'.
Kartikeyan is just laughable, the worst of the 4 you named. This guy is slow, barely fit enough for formula 1, cannot develop a car well enough and possibly has less money available than Petrov.

As for second driver I would aim to get Petrov, he is competitive, has grown a lot over previous 2 years and still has more to come.

[cbbcisace]

Accordingly he is the favourite, remember he said he would announce his decision within a week?

Guess we will find out soon.

[aleks_ader]

I Think that sort of discusion doest fit in tehnical matter of the F112!

[cbbcisace]

quite a lot doesn't fit in the technical discussion.