McLaren MP4-27 Mercedes (pre-launch speculation)

[jordangp]

I never got an apology from him, but he instead posted a link to this thread, and linked to my twitter wrongly

[N12ck]

totally agree ripping peoples work off will get you no where in life! the fact they know must make them ashamed of them selfs. someone has spent hours of hard work making that model, people should start water marking their work :\

Which is why I don't post my designs online, due to things like this

[jordangp]

I thought this would be a safe place, and I trusted in the people online to look at and acknowledge my car, but not to claim it for themselves. The fact it was an actual Automotive Engineer and ex-SAE International employee is what shocked me.

[Khan_F1]

May I ask that you ask permission to use my images before you steal them and claim them as your own? That rendering is of the Innovo i12, not an interpretation of the McLaren

Just to make it public here, since I think this misunderstanding has been cleared out on Twitter:

I read a tweet from Julian Petkov saying this could be how MP4-27 will look like. By the way, he wasn't at all claiming or implying the work was his, he was just tweeting a picture. He didn't claim the source, though, and since his tweets are restricted, and I found the pic interesting, I decided to tweet the pic myself, citing @jpetkovg as the source of it, neither implying it was my work nor Julian's, just and merely citing the first source where I saw the picture. Sorry for not searching through the internet where those pics came from, I didn't realize at the moment that your Photobucket user (BajanF1) was embedded in the pic's URL, and couldn't see any watermark on the pic so I would have gladly tweeted the very primary source, of course.

I just want to make clear that I wasn't trying, by any means, to claim that work as mine. I just wanted more people on Twitter to see the design, and actually if you read the tweets I was exchanging with other users questioning details on it, it is very clear that in any moment I pretend I was its author.

You have my timeline as a proof that every time, every single time, that I tweet something, I do my best to cite the source of it. Every time I tweeted some picture or design or even comment that I saw here, on F1Technical, I cited its source and (it there's any space available on the tweet) also the user who posted it here, even and specially when they don't have a Twitter profile I could mention.

So, summarizing: nobody was here trying to steal your work. If anything, we were trying to get more people to see it. Sorry about the confusion of taking it as a MP4-27 sketch, it wasn't my intention to mislead people at all, and tweeted the correct source as soon as you pointed that out, in spite of accusing me very rapidly of "claiming the work as mine".

Hope everything is clear now, and sorry for any inconvenience.

[Khan_F1]

To anyone saying here (as I'm reading) that I was "stealing someone else's work": my timeline is there, open to everyone. Can you guys say exactly on which tweet I'm claiming the work as mine?

[N12ck]

I thought this would be a safe place, and I trusted in the people online to look at and acknowledge my car, but not to claim it for themselves. The fact it was an actual Automotive Engineer and ex-SAE International employee is what shocked me.

Really, thats bad! I have designed my own car, but I don't put it online for the reason I don't trust people not to claim it as their own or steal it, not everyone is like me or you (not stealing things) sadly, anyways Ill try get this topic back on topic
here we go :

I think the Mclaren will feature Williams style gearbox and L pods I think will be developed further into super L pods!!

[allstaruk08]

i like the sound of that, im making a cardboard model and my sidepods come over the top like curve outward to fit the exhaust with the L pods i was hoping that McLaren would try something like this




obviously thats not finished there would be more body work

[aral]

i like the sound of that, im making a cardboard model and my sidepods come over the top like curve outward to fit the exhaust with the L pods i was hoping that McLaren would try something like this




obviously thats not finished there would be more body work

I doubt that it would pass the crash test!

[jordangp]

i like the sound of that, im making a cardboard model and my sidepods come over the top like curve outward to fit the exhaust with the L pods i was hoping that McLaren would try something like this

If McLaren were to retain the L-pods, the exhausts would have to be integrated into the top L section, there is nowhere else really for them to go is there?

[N12ck]

i like the sound of that, im making a cardboard model and my sidepods come over the top like curve outward to fit the exhaust with the L pods i was hoping that McLaren would try something like this

If McLaren were to retain the L-pods, the exhausts would have to be integrated into the top L section, there is nowhere else really for them to go is there?

I wonder,,, hmmm, Ill get thinking, and modelling,

[Forza]

i like the sound of that, im making a cardboard model and my sidepods come over the top like curve outward to fit the exhaust with the L pods i was hoping that McLaren would try something like this

If McLaren were to retain the L-pods, the exhausts would have to be integrated into the top L section, there is nowhere else really for them to go is there?

I wonder,,, hmmm, Ill get thinking, and modelling,

And pointing on rear brake duct fins creating downforce directly at the wheel?

[jordangp]

That seems to be the best solution for the L-pod. Anyone else got an alternative view?

[mith]

One question, because this idea popped here few times already... Wouldn't blowing brake ducts just cook brakes?

[beelsebob]

One question, because this idea popped here few times already... Wouldn't blowing brake ducts just cook brakes?

That was my expectation – the assertion people seem to be making is that you can aim 800°C gas at the fins on the side of the break ducts, and generate an aerodynamic effect usefully on a part that's moving relative to the gas flow... And meanwhile, be able to have none of that 800°C gas enter the break duct, and also, not heat up the break duct in flowing over the fins.

I really have no idea how this is meant to work.

[MIKEY_!]

The exhausts were right next to the tires last year and no problems came up. Some teams even had fins that appeared to turn the gases toward the tire rather than towards the diffuser and they still had no problems. And those gasses were even hotter than we would have to deal with this year since the pipes ended right next to the tire while these brake fin blowing ones will have the exhaust in free flow for longer. Also there are plenty of materials out there to insulate the brakes from the gasses themselves and the ducts can be easily positioned so the gasses won't enter. They won't blow the brake ducts they'll blow the fins above them.

EDIT:

See plenty of room under that exhaust stream for ducts.