Ferrari F2012

[Giblet]

The pull Rods work I guess because the suspension does'nt travel very far. With a stiff front end and and soft rear thats been the rage I guess they feel they don't have to worry too much about perfect suspension geometry.
Its a mistake I fear. Good suspension is good suspension and you can;t overcome a poor one with good aerodynamics
Just my opinion

I don't see the aero benefit from a pullrod front though.

I think he is just saying the car needs good aero and good suspension geonetry, not that the pull rods in the front provide that aero.

[timbo]

I must confess I don't see the reason for the front pull-rod suspension.

Imo to place the weight lower.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

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[ledzep4pm]

The pull Rods work I guess because the suspension does'nt travel very far. With a stiff front end and and soft rear thats been the rage I guess they feel they don't have to worry too much about perfect suspension geometry.
Its a mistake I fear. Good suspension is good suspension and you can;t overcome a poor one with good aerodynamics
Just my opinion

I don't see the aero benefit from a pullrod front though.

I'm also struggling to see an advantage. But I have had a couple of thoughts:

Possibly a lower C of G for the suspension components as they will have to be mounted differently. Also this might have made it easier for them to work in the crocodile nose.

This is just speculation, I can't see how having the higher pull rod would give a measurable advantage over the diagonal/lower push rod in terms of mass flow rate to the rear of the car or of the air quality (i.e less turbulent)

[neilbah]

There seems to be a rectangular duct in the front of the beam wing, the rear brake fins/ducts seem to be massively ramped diffusers from the rear

[sknguy]

It'll be interesting to see how the Pirellis perform with an entirely pullrod suspension, if there's any difference in attitude control at all, however subtle it might be. Would they not have an effect on something like roll center?

[amouzouris]

i have edited a two photos...

http://imageshack.us/f/341/ferrarif201220122150.jpg/
in this one its the f2012 side by side with the 150 italia....

http://imageshack.us/f/401/ferrarif20122thin.jpg/
and in this one i have edites out the bulges in the sidepods as someone had requested...

[RacingManiac]

It'll be interesting to see how the Pirellis perform with an entirely pullrod suspension, if there's any difference in attitude control at all, however subtle it might be. Would they not have an effect on something like roll center?

Your roll center is govern primarily by your control arm...

Pull or pushrod can do the same thing given the same task mechanically speaking, however so much of F1 is driven by other concern that there may well be some differences in the end.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I must confess I don't see the reason for the front pull-rod suspension.

I'm thinking the same to be honest... I just don't see the benefits. Very much doubt any other cars will have front pull-rod, pretty sure Red Bull won't be running it either.

[shelly]

All the changes Ferrari has made sem to be propelled by a big change in structure analysis and project. Does anybody know if, and how much, people have changed in the structures department?

[Giando]

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[Ferraripilot]

It'll be interesting to see how the Pirellis perform with an entirely pullrod suspension, if there's any difference in attitude control at all, however subtle it might be. Would they not have an effect on something like roll center?

With less suspension movement at the front end would this tear up and/or heat the front tires further? It sounds like this suspension could allow Ferrari to establish a lower static ride height but would it be at the expense of degradation I wonder

[Redragon]

http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari/Untitled-1.jpg

Mclaren and Ferrari front view side by side.

I tried to match them but the picture of ferrari is taken from lower point of view.
But you can see the different. If mechanically Push rod and Pull rod suspension do the same.
I understand why Ferrari is using Pullrod look how clean it looks like underneath.

[KevinR34]

This looks much better with McLaren nose + rims Mcrrari MP4-F2012. My photoshopskills are not so high level but im happy with the result

[Caterhamrules]