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n smikle wrote:As a mclaren fan I fear this car and it's number 1 driver.
i was expecting more from ferrari, i didn't notice nothing really new, they only copied others and brought their car into compliance with the regulation.
Odd that they should move away from the RBR style cooling exit. They seem to be sending ti very close to the diffuser and around the beam wing, which is as far as I know not as good. I wonder if they have managed to reduce the turbulence that is supposed to be the problem.
That's a fair point - the leading edge of the bulkhead could be blocking the driver's view of the nose tip. I know I can't see the nose when I'm driving my Toyota Alphard
Belatti wrote:I dont get how will they make that front suspension to work...
The big thing is how much the wishbones slope down. The wheels move outwards quite a bit as they move upwards so the pullrod gets pulled quite a lot more than the vertical travel of the wheels. Compare the angle of the wishbones on the McLaren & Ferrari.
It is business as usual as far as driver vision is concerned. They couldn't see the nose previously either.
Vision might be a little better now because the max height of the bulkhead has been reduced by 10 cm if I'm not mistaken.
To the poster who was expecting more from Ferrari... With the regulations as they are, it is difficult to innovate. That is why you see teams borrow concepts and optimise them for their own cars.
In any event there are things on the Ferrari that are different, such as the heat escaping low down right above the diffuser, the split sidepod turning vanes, the body work surrounding the exhaust looks interesting and it seems like hot air from the radiator will be exiting there as well, pull rod front suspension, a different intepretation of the nose regulations compared to others. They probably running their exhaust which features the chamber that mimics blowing.
I think people are being unreasonable as far as Ferrari are concerned and were expecting them to go off on a tangent as far as the concept was concerned. Well I'm glad they didn't.
Belatti wrote:I dont get how will they make that front suspension to work...
The big thing is how much the wishbones slope down. The wheels move outwards quite a bit as they move upwards so the pullrod gets pulled quite a lot more than the vertical travel of the wheels. Compare the angle of the wishbones on the McLaren & Ferrari.
We really won't be able to tell untill we see the mechanicals housed in the bulkhead. Tombazi has a lot of work has gone into getting the characteristics they want from the front suspension.
I generally like the car. The only thing I do not understand is why they have not made the "step" on the nose smoother? I am not aerodynamist, but it seems to me that if you smooth the angles it will disturb the airflow less.
I wonder why the cross-section of the noses of modern F1 cars is rectangular and not any smoother shape like ellipse (at let the upper part)? Is it for aerodynamic, packaging, strength, or any other reason?
mclaren777 wrote:Are they hoping the FIA won't notice?
The reason that this is legal is because scarbs' diagram is a bit missleading. The lower bounding box indicated here is for where you *must* put bodywork lying more than 250mm from the car centre line, not where you must not.