Yes i realized, got mixed up with the names of posters and their opinions.
Anyway; these guys know themselves.
Jersey Tom wrote:I can't wait to revive this dumb thread when the 2012 cars are unveiled
ringo wrote:
Ferrari are changing next year and you can quote me on that one.
xpensive wrote:Au contraire, I think you will see more push rods next year, as teams has by now realized that packaging and adjustment of the pull rod is a nightmare, while CoG and aerodynamic gains are minimal.
And you can quote me on that one.
Xpensive i'ma keep the promise.
Ringo, you have to kill this idea of pull rod suspension being the be all and end all or rear axle designs. Its complete BS. Forcing a pull rod axle into the back of any car will not automatically give you an advantage.
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For some teams, with their own gearbox/diffuser design, these second order effects might actually be negative therefore the pull rod is not the optimal solution there. I can guarentee this is why McLaren/Ferrari are not using it.
Tim
Blind faith because a Ferrari didn't have it. Now they do.
myurr wrote:If they change in 2012 then I'll say that they have re-evaluated their options and come up with a different compromise. When one of the teams switches back to a push rod, as the inevitably will at some point in the future, then what will you say?
compromise scrumpromise, same ferrari lump of iron slapped on to a gearbox like all the other cars on the grid. Nothing changed mechanically or packaging wise but their outlook.
I find the contrary interesting. The fact that so many people are playing up the advantages of the humble pull rod axle to the point where it is seen as some new must have accessory.
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moral of the thread:
ringo wrote:
If the winning car has it, copy it with no second thoughts. Don't think about it just copy it, you wont regret it.
Anyway i was just keeping a few promises made in the past of this thread. The front pull rod is now the focus of this thread. Quite an interesting geometry on the car.
In fact i think it will work better on the Mclaren Mp4 27.