Ferrari F2012

[Lycoming]

How do you figure? And just to clarify, that we are talking about the same thing, the upright is the piece that all suspension components, tie-rod/track-rod attach to, as well as the wheel hub etc.?

yes we are. I say it tends to increase upright mass because if you draw a free body diagram, you can see pullrod increases the loads on the upright.

[shelly]

I expect Mercedes to have a similar exhast position.
McLaren's is also similar with the idea to dump the hot gases into the rear of teh car where it expands and energises the flow off the floor and pulling more gas out of the diffusor. Its less effective than EBD but its better than nothing,

Given the upward angle, I think they are tyring to induce supercirculatio on the sidepod extension also, besides blowing

[bhall]

I must admit that the Ferrari is looking better and better* as more of its competitors see the light of day. I have a feeling it will either be the class of the field or F1's running joke for the season.




* I obviously don't mean aesthetically. Nothing will make its appearance look like anything other than a lost bet with God.

[Mr.G]

Exactly, I was waiting for RB8 as the MP4-27 and F2012 was released. And today it looks like Ferrari did better job like RedBull. Now just need to wait for Mercedes, if they show something that can beat F2012.

For now the F2012 is for me the most agresive car. It's little bit scary!

[Onch]

Interesting to note that all 'platypus-nose' teams have either chosen to smooth the transition at the center of the tub (Caterham, Force India, Lotus) or to include some sort hole at the transition between the nose and the tub (Red Bull-inlet, Sauber - outlet, the effect of these is still unclear).

Only Ferrari seem to have somehow overlooked this specific area.
I wonder if we will see some more detailing aero-wise in this area during testing...

[bhall]

The Ferrari nose is shaped pretty much the only way possible for it to have the maximum allowable height. Thus far, they're the only team to have taken its height to the extreme; the rest sacrifice height for shape.

[Arunas]

The Ferrari nose is shaped pretty much the only way possible for it to have the maximum allowable height. Thus far, they're the only team to have taken its height to the extreme; the rest sacrifice height for shape.

+1

[stringy]

Plus it could be the case that Ferraris launch car was very plain on purpose so as not to give away any little tricks, inlets, outlets, ears etc...

[Onch]

Plus it could be the case that Ferraris launch car was very plain on purpose so as not to give away any little tricks, inlets, outlets, ears etc...

Yup, hence my wondering whether we will see something different on the 'real' car...

[Mr.S]

Can someone explain me the meaning of Aggressive??? Front Pushrodes? Sure but do they give huge benefit?? The nose I dont think is something huge or massive which is going to tilt everything in their favour.

The only part which stands out is their rear packaging. I love the Sidepods. What RBR have got a very Good Car. Fantastic Front Wing,very innovative & new & probably better than F2012. The Nose looks cool & the sidepods have got a huge undercut too.

I actually like Force India's car even more than Ferrari. I mean the slimmiest & most sleeky of all sidepods. Huge Undercut,fantastic nose.

Ferrari have probably got a very good & competitive car but I think fans are over-doing it. Before Austrlia nobody knows & atleast you have to wait & check out the tests to have some idea. To act as if Ferrari are on their way to have the quickest car is ridiculous.

[bhall]

Can someone explain me the meaning of Aggressive???

Aggressive means taking chances. Ferrari is betting that the pull rod front suspension's potential aero/CG advantage, however slight, is worth risking reliability.

They're betting that getting air under the car is more important than having an aerodynamic nose, which is, in a way, placing a high premium on downforce even if it sacrifices top speed. In that arena, perhaps they've developed the first car that will absolutely rely on DRS.

From the looks of things, they're also gambling that their exhausts will aid flow to the rear, or produce downforce on the brake duct wings, without cooking the brakes.

It also appears that they're taking the chance that the exhaust housings will help direct air flow from the sidepods to the rear wing/beam wing, etc.

They've split the radiators into three locations to shrink the sidepods.

All of these things could work and produce a glorious car. Or, they could blow up, and render 2012 a useless year.

This Ferrari is all or nothing, and that's aggressive. At least that's how I see it.

[Redragon]

Can someone explain me the meaning of Aggressive???

Aggressive means taking chances. Ferrari is betting that the pull rod front suspension's potential aero/CG advantage, however slight, is worth risking reliability.

They're betting that getting air under the car is more important than having an aerodynamic nose, which is, in a way, placing a high premium on downforce even if it sacrifices top speed. In that arena, perhaps they've developed the first car that will absolutely rely on DRS.

From the looks of things, they're also gambling that their exhausts will aid flow to the rear, or produce downforce on the brake duct wings, without cooking the brakes.

It also appears that they're taking the chance that the exhaust housings will help direct air flow from the sidepods to the rear wing/beam wing, etc.

They've split the radiators into three locations to shrink the sidepods.

All of these things could work and produce a glorious car. Or, they could blow up, and render 2012 a useless year.

This Ferrari is all or nothing, and that's aggressive. At least that's how I see it.

+1 =D>

[Mr.S]

I get it but the brake ducts,that's cool instead of the rear wing. But there is always the fear of Over-heating. Ferrari have always been very reliable so let's see. Just being aggressive does not necessarily mean they will be top.

Anyways I am really looking forward to testing. I think in general it will all be very close at the top.

[hardingfv32]

The Ferrari nose is shaped pretty much the only way possible for it to have the maximum allowable height.

What benefit is there in using maximum allowable height?

Brian

[bhall]

Ostensibly more air underneath to feed the rear of the car.