Lotus E20 Renault

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bhallg2k wrote:
Byronrhys wrote:Image
Could they be blowing the barge boards?
No, I believe this photo comes from launch morph of E20 and R31 an this particular curvature on the floor is leftover from FEE.

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You could very well be right, in which case, the Lotus launch just got more irritating.

Red Bull did the lazy launch, too, with those illustrations. But, at least they had the decency to not even pretend to be actually presenting their new car.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote: Here ya go. Still think they look the same? :lol:

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good job dude! they did the same thing last season with the r30
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I think this team has learned a lot from heat management with last year's exhaust design. Hence why we are seeing all these holes in the lower parts of the chassis.
Their cooling solution seems very efficient.
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ringo wrote:I think this team has learned a lot from heat management with last year's exhaust design. Hence why we are seeing all these holes in the lower parts of the chassis.
Their cooling solution seems very efficient.
If you are speaking about the holes along the floor, they have had them since at least two season back. I remember someone mentioning them as "new" last year, but then someone else pulled pictures from 2010 with the same holes. Probably R31 thread if you want a source. I also remember that those features were found on several other cars as well, but they are not easy to spot.
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:High Res picture of the turning vanes & splitter. Right click>view Image
http://formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/dms1206fe207.jpg
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R31

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Blackout wrote:
Crucial_Xtreme wrote:High Res picture of the turning vanes & splitter. Right click>view Image
http://formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/dms1206fe207.jpg
via Khan_F1

R31
No it's an E20.
Owen.C93 wrote:Interesting holes.

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Kimi today in Jerez

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlKlKzEG_TI[/youtube]

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listen to the noise at 45 seconds as he gets on the power again sounds a bit like last year

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Owen.C93 wrote: No it's an E20
Wrong. It's the R31. Read the previous pages. Lotus used un R31 for the two launches (Enstone/Jerez)

Focus on the vertical splitter (side view images), it's one of the details that differentiates the two chassis.
Let's end this discussion.

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It's very easy to distinguish between two cars. Even in closeup shots. That's because launch E20(R31) had golden strips and actual test car has it painted in pale cream colour.

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And when the colours are not very clear, like in this photo
http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/dms1206fe207.jpg you look at the lower wishbones; R31 has ellipse shaped front wishbones (because they contain the steering arms) while E20 has circular ones (wishbone and steering are distinct) :mrgreen:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2zqflzr.jpg

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Is that me or suspensions are pretty soft?

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote: Here ya go. Still think they look the same? :lol:

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i just highlihted the differences i noticed between the 2 cars, and added the non modified r31
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