2012 Testing - Jerez 7-10 February

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Crabbia wrote:Alonso with a low 1:19...


That's a bit of a relief. :wink:
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I wonder if Ferrari are confused as to where they stand?
Take a bit of fuel out and bang in a time. That Lotus time of Grosjean yesterday is 0.8 quicker, but at least they are doing times that Red Bull have managed.

Grosjean said the car had "enough fuel" for a timed run, which leads me to believe they were running skinny. Ferrari have already stated they arent looking at one lap pace and will not attempt it at this test....Wonder what this 1:19.2 means then? 8)
More could have been done.
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Mr Alcatraz wrote:
Crabbia wrote:Alonso with a low 1:19...


That's a bit of a relief. :wink:
on softs...
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1.18 of Grosjean was on medium tyres. But the track was a lot warmer than now. Like Trulli said yesterday, only a fool look at times during testing.

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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:1.18 of Grosjean was on medium tyres. But the track was a lot warmer than now. Like Trulli said yesterday, only a fool look at times during testing.
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FrukostScones wrote:
Mr Alcatraz wrote:
Crabbia wrote:Alonso with a low 1:19...


That's a bit of a relief. :wink:
on softs...
still... cant analyze it too much but it does confirm its not as dire a situation as some people were starting to believe.
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FrukostScones wrote:
on softs...
Yes I know I'm following it live. :wink:
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A 19.3 if thats a 3 lap qualy run then it is not something exceptional. If Rosberg can do a 1.17.6 with a car that was 1-1.5s slower then I expect. Ofcourse W02 had 1 year of development & EBD but still.

Webber said he could do a high 1.16 with last year's car,with more tyre grip & teams looking for innovative ways I expect a 1.17's very much possible

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Crabbia wrote: still... cant analyze it too much but it does confirm its not as dire a situation as some people were starting to believe.
If Grosjean was doing the exact same lap as yesterday on softs, he could do 0.6s faster.

@PaulHembry (Pirelli boss)
The Difference in compounds between the mediums and the new soft at the Jerez track is 0.4 - 0.6s
So 0.8 seconds up on Ferraris best, plus on a tyre that is between 0.4 to 0.6 seconds slower gives you a total of around 1.3 seconds off.

This could be a heavily laden Ferrari, and a super skinny Renault.
More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: So 0.8 seconds up on Ferraris best, plus on a tyre that is between 0.4 to 0.6 seconds slower gives you a total of around 1.3 seconds off.

This could be a heavily laden Ferrari, and a super skinny Renault.
i get what you're saying and i knew it wasnt anything to piss my pants about but i'm just saying atleast they can put those times in and aren't completely in the dark the way mac was in last years testing.

what was worrying for me is that he had a run of a 1:19.3, then a cool down lap of 1:28 then a lap of 1:20.05. if that drop of between the first and third lap is all tire deg and not driver error or traffic or something else then they might well have issues.
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1.18.7 Alonso.

First lap of run :

1:18.877 (16)
1:27.387 (17)
1:19.729 (18)
1:20.042 (19)
1:20.149 (20)
1:35.514 (21)

Soft tyres for Alonso
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We can never tell precisely whats going on.

I think the teams have a good understanding of whom is where, but outside of that fraternity, and without the tools to tell, we can only make do with what we see and also the timings.....

But, let me just say...Im confused by Ferrari's rhetoric. First they say they have a plan, and this involves no quick timed laps, then they admit to not being where they want to be, and now theyre going for a few hot laps?

Something isnt right. But maybe its a ploy to throw the others off? As I said we can only really guess here.
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More could have been done.
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the only team we might be able to tell anything definate about fuel loads is the one that reported they had run out of fuel yesterday, namely lotus but even that's only if they were telling the truth about why they stopped on track!!!

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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:1.18.7 Alonso.

First lap of run :

1:18.877 (16)
1:27.387 (17)
1:19.729 (18)
1:20.042 (19)
1:20.149 (20)
1:35.514 (21)
was that still on softs?
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I am happy because FIA banned the blowing diffusers. Now the cars sound much better, like a proper F1 engine.
I think that the lap times in the testing sessions doesn't mater. All the teams getting data, run aero test. Ferrari i think is doing that the most. They seems to test every inch of that car, switching lot of new parts, getting all data possible to analyze afer.