Toro Rosso STR7 Ferrari

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wesley123
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I do not see how it would stand out of Red Bull? Then they will have exactly the same red bull stickers on the car, would bring them closer together instead of further apart in terms of livery
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I'm guessing it would be more based on the light blue which would differentiate from the Go-Fast Blue that Red Bull paints their cars with. I actually think it would be really nice, it would allow for loads more details on the car to be clearly seen and discerned.

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MIKEY_!
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I want the STR1 livery back, with the bull on the sidepods and the white details.

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Websta
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MIKEY_! wrote:I want the STR1 livery back, with the bull on the sidepods and the white details.
I agree

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Id rather that changed the colour scheme to the Red Bull Sugar Free colour, for 2 reasons, differenciation to the sister team and the second, it would look smart i think.

Same reason id like McLaren to go back to white and red, to fit in with the Vodaphone style.

Id have a rule in F1 where you were not allowed a simmilar colour/livery scheme to another team.

Another thing id do is make all customer teams carry on the engine cover their engine manufacturer as i think having Powered By Ferrari and a small prancing horse on the engine cover would make the Sauber and STRs look cool, the Force Inidas would look smart with a three pointed star as well. Renault and Cosworth have it as well.

However in my moritorium id also have each car to carry a ID patch for what engine they have in and how many gearboxes they have uised as well with the drivers name on it as well on both sided of the headrest for all to see.

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Intego wrote:Have a look at the vanes on the floor, it seems they want to seal the diffusor with normal air stream. Would be nice if so. I'm awaiting this solution since the first car launch and think Red Bull will do so, too. =D>
I noticed that too. I thought more teams would do something similar.
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STR has a monkey seat today during testing. Right click>view image

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That simian sofa is straight edged unlike the mclaren...
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MIKEY_!
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Monkey seat and raised centre section of RW. Seems odd but maybe that works better with the double airbox.

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MIKEY_! wrote:Monkey seat and raised centre section of RW. Seems odd but maybe that works better with the double airbox.
In what way is it odd?
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MIKEY_!
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Less DF on rear wing (and less drag) while more DF (and more drag) on the monkey seat. I've not noticed this before and I'd have thought the bigger rear wing would have been more efficient.

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MIKEY_! wrote:Less DF on rear wing (and less drag) while more DF (and more drag) on the monkey seat. I've not noticed this before and I'd have thought the bigger rear wing would have been more efficient.
I wonder how yuo know this overall setup has more drag.

Also, in what way is there less df on the rear wing? It is the same wing they ran last year
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n smikle wrote:That simian sofa is straight edged unlike the mclaren...
sounds much more "sophisticated" than monkey seat =D>

also, I THINK Mikey is saying: Higher aspect ratio wings are seemingly more efficient for a given level of downforce, so, why curl up lip of main wing(considered a DF and drag reduction measure) only to then add a simian sofa?

Looking at the picture, I'd say the answer lies in the interaction between these two wings and also the diffusor.
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wesley123 wrote:
MIKEY_! wrote:Less DF on rear wing (and less drag) while more DF (and more drag) on the monkey seat. I've not noticed this before and I'd have thought the bigger rear wing would have been more efficient.
I wonder how yuo know this overall setup has more drag.

Also, in what way is there less df on the rear wing? It is the same wing they ran last year
Not what I meant, I'm saying the monkey seat causes more drag than no monkey seat (and more DF). Meanwhile the RW generates less drag and less DF than a 'common' wing that uses all the available height.

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look above you Mikey
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Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher