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[atanatizante]

I guess the problem is that the tail end of the upper element is probably already at the upper and rearward limit of the regs ...

It make sense to move this upper element forward and above the main element?
How far could you move it?

[Shrieker]

I posted this on the RB8 thread when they reverted back to testing the central pillar sollution for flap actuation, but it got completely neglected. Maybe rightfully so, given my technical prowess (or lack thereof )

Why would Red Bull go back to central pillar for flap actuation after all the effort? I was thinking the other day if you apply enough force, you can twist/bend the entire rear wing assembly. That surely could bring a substantial gain when the DRS is activated.

[Nickel]

I thought the point of bending body work was to get it closer to the ground for ground effect. What would be the benefit of bending the rear wing? Changing AoA?

[Shrieker]

Yeah, why not ? Isn't that what the flexi rear wings were aiming for after all ? Theoretically, "the thing" at the top of the central pillar is a winch that applies force to the flap to pull it upwards; a winch with a fulcrum point at the bottom of the pillar where it meets the beam wing

[Nickel]

Yeah, why not ? Isn't that what the flexi rear wings were aiming for after all ? Theoretically, "the thing" at the top of the central pillar is a winch that applies force to the flap to pull it upwards; a winch with a fulcrum point at the bottom of the pillar where it meets the beam wing

Having some trouble following your train of thought. Are you implying the force from the drs actuator acts in a downward direction on the beam wing, essentially increasing the AoA of the beam wing? would this not be in opposition to what is desired upon activating the drs? Maybe I'm reading your idea wrong...



Separate subject: Would the coanda effect in the exhaust channel actually create lift as far as the chassis is concerned?

[Shrieker]

Take a rod, push the DRS flap upwards from under, when it's(the flap's) range of motion is over the force you'll be applying will start flexing the entire rear wing assembly - provided it's been designed and manufactured with that in mind.

[Nickel]

I understand now, very interesting idea indeed!

[scarlet]

http://xpb.cc/viewpicture.asp?id=473430

Nothing obvious from that angle, although it may not be on the car yet.

[scarlet]

New pitstop light system looks interesting: http://xpb.cc/viewpicture.asp?id=473490

I'm guessing: Each corner of the car has its own set of red and green lights. From the top, front jack, front wheels, rear wheels, rear jack. Bottom set turns from red to green when everything is done.

[KeiKo403]

New pitstop light system looks interesting: http://xpb.cc/viewpicture.asp?id=473490

I'm guessing: Each corner of the car has its own set of red and green lights. From the top, front jack, front wheels, rear wheels, rear jack. Bottom set turns from red to green when everything is done.

So how do you think that traffic in the pitlane is coped with...no lollipop man to judge if it's safe to release the car?
Please Lewis, no more crashes.

EDIT: Actually looks like a lollipop man had a remote switch upper-right hand man in the pic. http://xpb.cc/viewpicture.asp?id=473499

[scarlet]

New pitstop light system looks interesting: http://xpb.cc/viewpicture.asp?id=473490

I'm guessing: Each corner of the car has its own set of red and green lights. From the top, front jack, front wheels, rear wheels, rear jack. Bottom set turns from red to green when everything is done.

So how do you think that traffic in the pitlane is coped with...no lollipop man to judge if it's safe to release the car?
Please Lewis, no more crashes.

It would make sense to have a spotter on the other side of the lane with a button tied into the system. He'd press it when there was traffic coming and it would overrive the green light at the bottom.

[Richard]

Probably use a fail safe system, the spotter has to press the button to trigger a green light. If he does nothing then it stays red.

[Princey]

Yes definitely agree, fail safe.. It would be a press to go opposed to a press to stop.

[KeiKo403]

I don't get why it has to be so complicated though. Ferrari use a red light (brakes on) and a green light for go.
Just keep it simple McLaren!

[scarlet]

It'll allow the drivers to anticipate the green light better I guess.