http://www.deltaworld.org/sport/Fernand ... the-other/Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Do you have a link?radosav wrote:fernando alonso made statement to spanish press tonight during barcelona football match, asked about ferrari he said :“We are well, although we still have many things to improve”.
“We are now in the last days of coaches and want to see where we are.” “We have work and we must tighten the teeth and keep improving little by little,”
As of tomorrow night they will (using logic) build a new chassis/edit the chassis for Melbourne.lombers wrote:The speculation in this thread about whether Ferrari have got it right or wrong is amazing
In all honesty though if we take a look at the changes Ferrari have made compared to last years design, they would no doubt be one of the teams with the most changes. Of course this is always going to take time to collect and analyse data, at the very least they are probably still playing some catch up from last year.
It's obvious the car will evolve again before Melbourne and Ferrari have the team to be able to develop quickly. I for one will be eager to see how this design correlates to speed once qualifying is completed in Melbourne.
Wow negative much? It's obvious that you're making an assumption here, I hope you don't get proven wrong.bhallg2k wrote:Oh, I don't doubt it at all. I'm sure they saw Red Bull's new toys yesterday, and it's given them some measure of hope, maybe, that they aren't so screwed after all.
(But, they really are.)
Im more or less kind of with you bro. I mean if we've moved the exhaust back after Fry said it was too aggressive & needed more development time, there's a slight problem.bhallg2k wrote:Really, look through this thread and elsewhere for my comments on the F2012. I've been consistently objective, with a slant toward very measured optimism, up until the last couple of days.
My suggested impetus for Ferrari's return to the supposedly abandoned outboard exhausts is definitely nothing more than speculation. However, I do think that everything added up does point to a lack of discipline that I find quite discomforting.
(I just wanted to follow up on the other poster's comment. I'll move further thoughts of this nature to the Ferrari zoo.)
My thoughts on these changes are more about if there is any performance differential between the two setups. If it's minimal and the reason the exhaust was moved inboard was to solve some type issue be it heat related or otherwise, then it's understandable. This could well explain Fry's comments, he doesn't specifically mention that it is a performance issue or some other factors at play.Crucial_Xtreme wrote: Im more or less kind of with you bro. I mean if we've moved the exhaust back after Fry said it was too aggressive & needed more development time, there's a slight problem.
I will say I haven't seen any clear pictures that we've moved back, only trackside observation. one picture I've seen makes it look like we have not moved it back. Waiting on better pictures.
My thoughts exactly.beelsebob wrote:What's interesting here is the lack of nice clear flows. When we saw the McLaren flow vis ...Crucial_Xtreme wrote:More Flo-vis
Sounds like the exhaust is not their only problem though. Sure the trackside reports say that the Ferrari is not as good on corner exit as the Red Bull or McLaren, and that is probably due to downforce from the exhausts as they all get back on the throttle, but they've also been rumoured to have worse tyre wear. Some of that will be downforce related but it's likely to also be problems with the suspension setup and geometry. The other big problem that has been mentioned is that whilst the car is quick enough when in the optimal window, that window is very narrow. That's not something an exhaust change is going to fix.FORZA FERRARI wrote:Apparently, Pat Fry admits podium is out of reach for the team, they still struggle to determine which is the best solution for the exhaust, and admitts that they did not get it right from the start and that the RB's way is the one to follow...
oh man.... i'm gonna die before the racing starts.. utterly dispointed with that
radosav wrote:http://www.deltaworld.org/sport/Fernand ... the-other/Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Do you have a link?radosav wrote:fernando alonso made statement to spanish press tonight during barcelona football match, asked about ferrari he said :“We are well, although we still have many things to improve”.
“We are now in the last days of coaches and want to see where we are.” “We have work and we must tighten the teeth and keep improving little by little,”
