edit: damn I just saw that my last post is full of spelling mistakes
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Robert Kubica has today informed Lotus Renault GP that he will not be ready for the start of the 2012 season, despite having started an intensive training programme. The Pole is still recovering from his really crash earlier this year and thereby gives the green light to LRGP to select its drivers for the 2012 campaign.
actually it doesn't. I'm normally the last to defend Ringo, but Sutil and Kubica both took unnecessary risks without thinking about possible consequences to their F1 careers. Sutil's was a little less romantic than a huge rally crash, but not really any dumber than bombing around tiny Italian stone lined streets at very high speeds, in a car that probably has less than 30% of the safety factor of an F1 car.Pandamasque wrote:Wow. I thought about replying but after this I have nothing to add really. It must have taken a lot of pinnacle-of-motorsport-and-nothing-else-matters-brainwashing to equate a drunken party incident including alleged stabbing to participation in a rally.ringo wrote:I put him and sutil in the same boat. Silly antics outside of the cockpit that were insignificant compared to the price payed.
ringo wrote: What he does and should be doing is drive F1 cars, nothing else.
Guys like Raikonen get their conracts terminated. If he truly does like driving anything anywhere i don't think he would have returned to F1. Kubica is different from Kimi to me btw; Robert is a loose cannon. You can see it in his driving.Lurk wrote:@Ringo: You don't seem to understand from what kind of essence guys like Kubica are built, what they are living for. They want to drive! No matter how much they weight, no matter what the risks are.
Some want to be the best F1 driver - Vettel, Alonso, Schumacher, Hamilton I think - but guys like Kubica or Raikkonen just want to drive, anything, anywhere.
Well if that's how is then he can't be one of the best F1 drivers. He'll be quickly forgeten. Discipline is as much a part of success in F1 as talent.If Robert return to the highest level one day and have an opportunity to race on an insignificant rallye, be sure he'll do it again. It is clearly a short-term vision, but that's how they are.
What is this achieving.. cool guy points?No wonder why he choose to drove a rallye car next to the place he nearly die last year.
Because even if he likes driving and just driving, he surely has some preferences too. He returns to formula one because he was asked by Williams then Lotus. He just had an opportunity to race a great car and took it.ringo wrote:If he truly does like driving anything anywhere i don't think he would have returned to F1
Never said he does not regret, just that if he has the opportunity he'll surely do it again.ringo wrote:Look where he is now, i know he regrets his actions. I know he doesn't like seeing Kimi in his car.
Success on the charts & among fan is not the same. I think he would be remember among f1 fans during several years & forgotten by general public. But general public remember only 3 or 4 time champions anyway. Maybe they even never heard of Kubica...ringo wrote:Well if that's how is then he can't be one of the best F1 drivers. He'll be quickly forgeten. Discipline is as much a part of success in F1 as talent.
To prove himself he can still drive without any apprehension, maybe?ringo wrote:What is this achieving.. cool guy points?
i agree you can't compare. robert made a rally with a prepared car. the barrier was not supposed to be open. he was just unlucky.Pandamasque wrote:Wow. I thought about replying but after this I have nothing to add really. It must have taken a lot of pinnacle-of-motorsport-and-nothing-else-matters-brainwashing to equate a drunken party incident including alleged stabbing to participation in a rally.ringo wrote:I put him and sutil in the same boat. Silly antics outside of the cockpit that were insignificant compared to the price payed.
Actually anyone with an experienced eye can analyse that picture. Even if only the thumb is visible, the posture of his hand is " intrinsic minus"; it means that the kuckle joints are straight but the finger joints are bent. Its the classic position one sees in people who have sustained nerve injuries to the upper limb.Sobek wrote:Come on guys, I wouldn't over-analyze that picture.n smikle wrote:I see his right hand...http://p.twimg.com/AnjymZYCIAEdSyS.jpg
It looks like Frank Williams' hands. Sorta angled off to the side like it's lacking strength.
Look at his left hand - it looks somewhat artificial too. And that hand was not injured.
My take is that Bobby doesn't have a fine control of right hand at this point, and these tests will help him better understand impact this has on ability to control the car.
those who made this reconstition have a better knowledge than us. they studied everything before to make itrichard_leeds wrote:That video is nothing like the actual accident.
There was a gap in barrier, presumably for access to adjacent land. Kubica’s car went across the gap and had a head on collision with the end of the barrier after the gap.
It’s all discussed much earlier in this thread.
Now that's something what we want to hear...He immediately touched the track record.
