Marussia MR01 Cosworth

[MIKEY_!]

Owen is right and ballast is fixed so you can't use that to fix under-steer. Also welcome to the forum Neeeeeeeeeeeowm.

[Neeeeeeeeeeeowm]

I wouldn't say so, if you want less DF at the front lower the angle of attack so you can shed drag as well.

I'm not sure their looking to have less front DF, possibly just try to prioritise mid-section DF, which would make sense because it would mean they could open their DRS more in quali, because the car would not be as unbalanced by the lack of rear DF from DRS if DF is focused at the mid-point rather than the front, they can pass through more highspeed corners with it open without subsequently stacking it into the wall.

[Neeeeeeeeeeeowm]

Owen is right and ballast is fixed so you can't use that to fix under-steer. Also welcome to the forum Neeeeeeeeeeeowm.

Cheers, that fixing ballast thing is a right ballache, should give some variable after a season of Pirelli? btw I totally regret my username, I have to remember the exact amount of "e"'s....

[mith]

Before any speculations like that, I would like to see the car running in Melbourne. All that story with very high front wing seems to be in contrary with common sense. Especially considering all that gimmicks like flexing wings, that teams are eager to undertake just to lower their FW as much as possible. Maybe that was just some very early shake-down config in order to prevent wing from breaking on curbs or maybe it was forced by some late redesign and because of that wing pylons are too short?

I will really start to scratch my head, if they won't change it in Australia.

[Owen.C93]

I wouldn't say so, if you want less DF at the front lower the angle of attack so you can shed drag as well.

I'm not sure their looking to have less front DF, possibly just try to prioritise mid-section DF, which would make sense because it would mean they could open their DRS more in quali, because the car would not be as unbalanced by the lack of rear DF from DRS if DF is focused at the mid-point rather than the front, they can pass through more highspeed corners with it open without subsequently stacking it into the wall.

Lifting the front wing will pose a significant DF loss. Hence why it makes more sense to change the Angle of attack instead. Besides as Mith said, we need to see the car on the track to see what's going on. Chance are they had a lot of ride height at the shake down because of the poor surface.

[Neeeeeeeeeeeowm]

I wouldn't say so, if you want less DF at the front lower the angle of attack so you can shed drag as well.

I'm not sure their looking to have less front DF, possibly just try to prioritise mid-section DF, which would make sense because it would mean they could open their DRS more in quali, because the car would not be as unbalanced by the lack of rear DF from DRS if DF is focused at the mid-point rather than the front, they can pass through more highspeed corners with it open without subsequently stacking it into the wall.

Lifting the front wing will pose a significant DF loss. Hence why it makes more sense to change the Angle of attack instead. Besides as Mith said, we need to see the car on the track to see what's going on. Chance are they had a lot of ride height at the shake down because of the poor surface.

Aye good shout,but what I mean is when if you could get more DF from the mid point which would stop it spinning out in corners with DRS open at the sacrifice of turn in, does that make sense even? Though they would then have pants handling. xD

EDIT: Because I was posing a question you'd already answered.

[marcush.]

I really cheered for Virgin two years ago ,but let´s face it ..removing wirth has not changed anything,not even the cfd approach as i learned todays:

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news ... 31418.html

only cheesy justifications for not performing so far.it was the route they chose ,why lamenting their own choice? symmonds is in the business for 30 years ,isn´t he he should know what it takes.

[Neeeeeeeeeeeowm]

Just to confirm I was talking complete arse earlier, both Mercedes and Force India who shook down at Silverstone both ran massively high ride height, so the Marussia was not an oddity.

[jordangp]

Just so you know, they cannot actually raise the front wing...
The central section has to be in a defined place, and the outer sections need to be in relation to that.

I never understood what anybody said about it looking high?

[MIKEY_!]

Except this is testing so they can do what they want.

[jordangp]

And would then might as well not test. Results will be useless, you might as wellrun with no front wing what so ever, or a 2008 spec wing....

[TzeiTzei]

Dudes, that was just the shakedown. It wouldn't have made any difference had they not bolted any wing to front of the car.

[MIKEY_!]

Exactly

[Gridlock]

Well it would certainly appear they've got reliability in this car, looks like HRT are in for a lonely year.

[FrukostScones]