Australian GP 2012 - Albert Park

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NathanOlder wrote:Great job Jenson, Mclaren is the class of the field. The safety car seriously helped out the other teams. I feel the race was won into turn 1 today. whichever Mclaren driver made it there first had the choice of the pitstops so was always easily in control. And today the DRS (like last year) was not very effective. So once Jenso got into the leas it was game over. Pitting 1 lap earlier meant Lewis had no answer.

Martin Brundle pretty much saying what i wrote 5 mins earlier :D
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myurr wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Great job Jenson, Mclaren is the class of the field. The safety car seriously helped out the other teams. I feel the race was won into turn 1 today. whichever Mclaren driver made it there first had the choice of the pitstops so was always easily in control. And today the DRS (like last year) was not very effective. So once Jenso got into the leas it was game over. Pitting 1 lap earlier meant Lewis had no answer.
To be fair Lewis was having to protect his rear tyres constantly so couldn't push as he would have wanted to.

McLaren stayed out a lap or two too long on the first stint which brought Vettel back into it a bit and then were very unlucky with the safety car. Lewis lost about 4 - 6 seconds to Vettel in that first round of pit stops by being kept out two laps too long. Without those two things then Vettel would have been a solid third but not in touch with Hamilton.

I think the next race will be a bit different. The long straights will play towards McLaren's hands with their slippery car, but there are some faster corners where they'll have an advantage over the Mercedes and Lotus. The grippier surface should help Lewis with his rear tyres as well, plus they'll have a bit more setup knowledge to help manage that.

Red Bull will probably suffer again in qualifying but should have a good race. They'll have to battle through a few cars though to get close to the McLarens.

Mercedes are harder to read though. Very fast over one lap but then were nowhere at all in the race. Rosberg went backwards and whilst Schumacher seemed to be holding on a little better I have no doubt his tyres would still have gone off faster than the cars around him.
Hamilton was actually pulling away from Vettel on mediums while Vettel was chasing him down on softs. He was making and maintaining a two second lead on slower tyres.

They really did keep Lewis out far too long.

He basically wasn't allowed to come in until Button pits which is why they had to do the double pit. Hamilton needed the tyres, but wasn't allowed them. You can hear on the radio, Hamilton asking for tyres and his engineer telling him to just keep pushing.

Without the safety car, Hamilton was going to be second. Very unlucky today.


Maldonado though........he destroyed Grosjeans race, but I couldn't feel bad when I saw him harassing Alonso like that. It's a real shame he couldn't finish.
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As much as people hugely rate Alonso's driving talent, it takes someone special to make sure he's in the right team at the right time, and in my opinion Alonso made the wrong decision to go with Ferrari. So you can blame the car all you like, but it was his choice to sit in that seat. You have to ask yourself how he'd be performing had he stayed with Renault/Lotus. Kimi may have trumped him this season. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

In other news. That's the best race we've had in a long time! I'm super excited for Malaysia!

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prince wrote:So, where are those who kept denying W03 pace :-) Had Rosberg not committed a mistake, it would have been very clear that, RB is behind Merc. Unbelievable progress. :-) No doubt, now Christian Horner starts screaming foul about Merc Wing. =D> =D> =D>

Oh yeah, now people say, this is one off circuit, we need to wait until fly away races are over... blah... blah.... blah. :mrgreen:

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Yup great race.

I know Sky is a bit of a swear word around here, but great commentary from Crofty and Brundle today. They can keep the bulk of the rest of the coverage, but at least they have the best commentary team out there.

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here is the crash of maldonado. wait to see his words after the race... :?
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lillschumi wrote:Aldo Costa must have a good time right now. Nice revenge.
Yeah he's having a great time right now eh?

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It would be interesting to see the Lap Times from the lap the Safety Car was deployed. As soon as the SC was sent out, every yellow flag goes out so drivers must slow down. When Vettel came out the pits Lewis was nowhere to be seen. It appeared Vettel was closer to Jenson than Lewis was to Vettel.

Martin Whitmarsh mentioned it when talking to Hill & Croft.
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high-on-octane wrote:As much as people hugely rate Alonso's driving talent, it takes someone special to make sure he's in the right team at the right time, and in my opinion Alonso made the wrong decision to go with Ferrari. So you can blame the car all you like, but it was his choice to sit in that seat. You have to ask yourself how he'd be performing had he stayed with Renault/Lotus. Kimi may have trumped him this season. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

In other news. That's the best race we've had in a long time! I'm super excited for Malaysia!

Easy to speak after. Ferrari was way better than Renault during 2009, 2010 and 2011.

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Was impressed by Webber's pace - managing to run the same pace as Vettel at the end despite running in Hamilton's dirty air. It's just too bad he had another poor start.

[quote=high-on-octane]As much as people hugely rate Alonso's driving talent, it takes someone special to make sure he's in the right team at the right time, and in my opinion Alonso made the wrong decision to go with Ferrari.[/quote]
He is still getting paid something like 1.5 million euros per race weekend so I would say he's not going to feel too bad about it. I would hardly call leaving the 09 Renault team for Ferrari a bad decision though, especially considering the pace Ferrari had in 2010.

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zoro_f1 wrote:here is the crash of maldonado. wait to see his words after the race... :?
get over it, ALO s off in qualifying was of the same kind.
Maldonado shone today. Fullstop.
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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:
high-on-octane wrote:As much as people hugely rate Alonso's driving talent, it takes someone special to make sure he's in the right team at the right time, and in my opinion Alonso made the wrong decision to go with Ferrari. So you can blame the car all you like, but it was his choice to sit in that seat. You have to ask yourself how he'd be performing had he stayed with Renault/Lotus. Kimi may have trumped him this season. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

In other news. That's the best race we've had in a long time! I'm super excited for Malaysia!

Easy to speak after. Ferrari was way better than Renault during 2009, 2010 and 2011.
And he was only one tactical error in the last race away from a world championship win with Ferrari in 2010. He couldn't go to Red Bull or McLaren and he couldn't stay at Renault - what was he supposed to do?
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The Mercedes car in terms of race pace is behind of the Mcs, RBRs, Alonso, Lotus, Williams and Sauber. Probably this team will have problems to get points this year. A disaster to Merc fans, but this is the reality.

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He wasnt at Mclaren, he could have stayed at Renault is what i think people were saying?
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Ferrari F2012 is a BAD CAR - alonso started 12 and finished 5th
Williams-Renault is a GOOD CAR - maldonado started 8th and he spun.

it's not the same situation. :wink:
FrukostScones wrote: get over it, ALO s off in qualifying was of the same kind.
Maldonado shone today. Fullstop.
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