COTA Austin - construction and infrastructure

[King Six]

I gotta agree. It looks to be in a more advanced state than Buddh International was at a similar time before the event. Korea too. Don't think there will be too much of an issue to get this race this year, it's politics that will drag this ship down if anything.

[hairy_scotsman]

Do we have any photos of what India's facility infrastructure looked like in the same time frame?

Getting the asphalt for the track down really shouldn't be a main concern. That should get done no problem. The buildings well should be done, too, even if behind schedule. They're only doing race-essential structures. All the smaller detail/infrastructure projects, though, as Strad said...those really add up. There are just so many things, even just immediately near the racing surface.

I do believe there will be a race. It's just a matter of how the infrastructure, etc, will work.

ETA: Oh BTW, in a recent Statesman article, Dave Doolittle quoted Scott Kahler saying that they plan to begin initial paving of the circuit "around April".

[Pup]

Well, what's on the list?


Civil

Pit Building

Grandstands

Media Center

Medical Center

Paddock Buildings

Track and Curbing

Fencing and Barriers

Irrigation, Landscape and Runoff Areas

Misc. Paving

Temporary Grandstands

Tents and Port-a-potties

And the silly tower, I suppose.



What am I missing?

[xpensive]

Some four months from FIA's inspection and we're looking at a moon-landscape without a decent access road, snap out of it...

[beelsebob]

Some four months from FIA's inspection and we're looking at a moon-landscape without a decent access road, snap out of it...

Remember that that's roughly what India and Korea looked like 1 month before FIA inspection date.

[Pup]

Don't confuse FIA inspections with FIA certification. The inspections, in practice at least, just say 'Yeah, you're on target to be ready'. Of course, you have to actually have something to inspect, which was Korea's problem. The regs say everything has to be complete to the FIA's satisfaction, which I suppose is where the wiggle room is. Certification is when everything is done, and the FIA says ok, you can race. In India, certification happened a week before the race, and according to this article at least, that's business as usual...

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=157

Which makes sense, of course. The FIA can't exactly certify Monaco or Singapore 90 days out, can they.

Regardless, even going by the letter of the regs, they need to be finished with the track, barriers, etc.; the pit building; medical center; media building; grandstands; and paddock buildings by August 18. That's four and a half months, and I don't see any reason why they can't do that.

But in reality, mid-November their ultimate deadline.

[FW17]

Do we have any photos of what India's facility infrastructure looked like in the same time frame?

There is all the details here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 714&page=2

My only disappointment so far is that they scaled back the main grandstand. I'd have much preferred the original.

Why the fascination with Grandstands? US is not out there to prove to the world like China and Abu dhabi. Silverstone has not one permanent grandstand, everyone is temperory.

All the smaller detail/infrastructure projects, though, as Strad said...those really add up. There are just so many things, even just immediately near the racing surface.

I do believe there will be a race. It's just a matter of how the infrastructure, etc, will work.

Every street circuit (singapore, australia, valencia, monaco)are done in 45 days, why is it so impossible to do it in Austin. Until this year malaysia had tents as team hospitality units, this year permanent buildings were built for the teams, one of which burned down last night.

so for some time. Tickets also have been announced for June 1.

[Pup]

I am fascinated with grandstands.

Until this year malaysia had tents as team hospitality units, this year permanent buildings were built for the teams, one of which burned down last night.

This is exactly what I mean when I say that COTA's being judged on a sliding scale. First, everyone just says they've got to be finished on time. But now, when it looks like they will, suddenly you're saying that the buildings have to be finished and not burn down.

Nothing will please you people.

[munudeges]

Quite apart from the fact that it's nowhere near where India was, India had a captive workforce they could call upon at any time plus unlimited amounts of government cash on hand. The problems India had were in all the infrastructure details, as they were with the Commonwealth Games. They're quite clearly building in Austin with no thought to logistics, decent access, location, research (I see the Cota execs are off on a whirlwind fact finding mission right now when building has started) or with any consideration to any ticketing plan, if indeed there is one. Look's like they'll finish? Yer.......

The bummer for Cota executives is that they're probably only going to get some funds when it actually looks as if they're being moderately serious about building something.

[Pup]

Seg, when trolling becomes absurd then there's no need to reply. It loses it's effectiveness entirely.

Hey, x, you really need to mentor your pupils on the basics before releasing them in the wild.

[xpensive]

...
Hey, x, you really need to mentor your pupils on the basics before releasing them in the wild.

Hmm...afraid you got that one confused, but anyway, we should be more careful now as moderation was back last night;

From my humble and most respectful perspective, it would seem that the plausibility for a Formula One race in the
great state of Texas as early as November this very year, is less than a hundred percent.

[bhall]

From my humble and most respectful perspective, it would seem that the plausibility for a Formula One race in the
great state of Texas as early as November this very year, is less than a hundred percent.

You mean those sh*t-kickers in Austin don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting this thing done?

[Pierce89]

From my humble and most respectful perspective, it would seem that the plausibility for a Formula One race in the
great state of Texas as early as November this very year, is less than a hundred percent.

You mean those sh*t-kickers in Austin don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting this thing done?

I have to admit, I'm starting to look to Chris Christie as the U.S.'s F1 savior.

[bhall]

The only thing Chris Christie has ever saved is a spot in the buffet line. Then again, considering his "stature," that's no small feat. (I seriously wonder when was the last time that man saw his feet.)

As a former resident of the Garden State, I feel I'm allowed these statements.

[hairy_scotsman]

Tickets also have been announced for June 1.

Where/when was this announced? Hadn't seen that anywhere else.