Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

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marcush. wrote:unfortunatelly Michaels start was mediocre and that opened oportunities to others with the result we see .In terms of Rosberg he seems very uninspired with his driving and can suddenly hold no candle against Schumacher.
If you were watching the RTL feed, look how Rosberg reacted... It was unbelievable
He almost had tears in his eyes...said komisch like a 100 times
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Okey, Mercedes is not willing to sign the concorde, the team in it´s 3rd year with no progress. Time to pull the plug anyone?

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lillschumi wrote:Okey, Mercedes is not willing to sign the concorde, the team in it´s 3rd year with no progress. Time to pull the plug anyone?
I think that is very plausible, the concorde is another nail in the coffin
this team needs a straightforward miracle

the only great achievement here is embarrassing the Mercedes and Schumacher name
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Pos Constructor Points
1 McLaren/Mercedes 55
2 Red Bull/Renault 42
3 Ferrari 35
4 Sauber/Ferrari 30
5 Lotus/Renault 16
6 Force India/Mercedes 9
7 Williams/Renault 8
8 Toro Rosso/Ferrari 6
9 Mercedes 1
10 Marussia/Cosworth 0
11 Caterham/Renault 0
12 HRT/Cosworth 0

I don´t think they are wetting their pants in Stuttgart.

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Mercedes should be the last team on the grid to complain about tyre wear. They suffered most from it last year so it should have been one of their main objectives.

The degradation looks so bad it looked like it was getting visibly worse in each sector for get lap.

I suspect this tyre issue is going to define their season and plague them in every race in all conditions. They will get Poles this season but race finishes are going to be in the 8th / 12th positions and these would be hard fought positions with Sauber, Williams and STR.

Great innovations like the DRS wing trick but if Mercedes is in F1 next season their top priority should be dealing with the tyres not just to solve it but to try and obtain a competitive advantage.

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It seems that at Mercedes team the steam goes all to the locomotive's whistle.
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Spa 2012

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GrubSchumi wrote:Mercedes should be the last team on the grid to complain about tyre wear. They suffered most from it last year so it should have been one of their main objectives.

The degradation looks so bad it looked like it was getting visibly worse in each sector for get lap.

I suspect this tyre issue is going to define their season and plague them in every race in all conditions. They will get Poles this season but race finishes are going to be in the 8th / 12th positions and these would be hard fought positions with Sauber, Williams and STR.

Great innovations like the DRS wing trick but if Mercedes is in F1 next season their top priority should be dealing with the tyres not just to solve it but to try and obtain a competitive advantage.
well not next season...can't totally write them off yet
there's sufficient development time and an in-season test
they can fix it,it is more of car tweaks than a fundamental design issue
suspension revision, exhaust revision, setup work and so on

what they need is to get rid of the people who made the same mistakes over and over again
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Sauber, Williams and Lotus performed better in the race in Australia. They performed better (maybe even better) today in very different conditions.
I don't think this is negligible.
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The Mercedes wasn't actually that bad on slicks:

(Schu vs. Alo compared)
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It's only the intermediate where they lost so much time.

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A thing that I dont understand.

- We all agree that AMG has a better car than Ferrari. (at least ATM)
- We also agree that MSC or ROS are good drivers.
- ROSS is a olf fox with a lot of experience.
- AMG has a lot of Good People.

Ok, so How they manage to have that kind of performane, I mean Ferrari with a lot Less, I think ALO is the only good thing, manage to Win the race?--

I hope I had dropped some moeny to them on BWIN.

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Well, if the old regenmeister couldn't excel with the W03 in today's weather conditions, I seriously wonder when he will?

Im also beginning to wonder just how much of that all too sweet baclava JET will spoon-feed me with after the season?
"I spent most of my money on wine and women...I wasted the rest"

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I don't know but I do think it is a fundamental design. Last season and now this season considering the car is an evolution still has genes from last season and this defect is still there. Consider No other team has this problem last year and this year only Mercedes. This is very likely a design issue.

What we would not like to see is a situation like last season the drivers had to sacrifice their handling preferences when setting up the car for one that was perhaps not to their liking but evidently preserved the tyres better.

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thevlack wrote:A thing that I dont understand.

- We all agree that AMG has a better car than Ferrari. (at least ATM)

that's not a problem mate! I still believe in santaclaus! :P

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GrubSchumi wrote: No other team has this problem last year and this year only Mercedes. This is very likely a design issue.

to be true also F2012 this year seems to suffer some tyre degradation
(though less than merc)

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xpensive wrote:Well, if the old regenmeister couldn't excel with the W03 in today's weather conditions, I seriously wonder when he will?

Im also beginning to wonder just how much of that all too sweet baclava JET will spoon-feed me with after the season?
What will the old man do when he has to lap slower than usual to preserve his tyres?

Why would u be worried about eating baclawa?? They're awesome
I eat a dozen in one sitting
get the ones that have cream inside, the others are a little bit dry

But Michael can still win a race, not such a long shot.. Spa or Monza maybe
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