Yes we should all turn a blind eye to murder and injustice if it interferes with our fun.
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A team from the Porsche Supercup, a supporting series during the upcoming Grand Prix of Bahrain this weekend has cancelled its participation in the race, outing its doubts about the safety at the middle-east country.
I give it less than a day.mx_tifoso wrote:The recently opened Bahrain thread has been merged int the original one, and providing that it doesn't go off topic it will remain open. But anything similar to what happened before will lead to it being locked.
No, but you can do that out of the scope of F1.strad wrote:Yes we should all turn a blind eye to murder and injustice if it interferes with our fun.
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The point is that you cannot make the race safe!! IMO they will either have a sudden cancellation very late before the race or they will risk on track turmoil of unprecedented scale.After the 9th March demonstration, members of the opposition wrote to Bernie suggesting that the race be cancelled. They said that they would do 'everything in our capacity' to ensure that the race fails.
'Everything in our capacity' strikes a chill in me. The hotels where the teams stay are largely staffed by members of the oppressed Shia majority. Ross, Michael and Bernie cannot be sure what lies behind the smile of the waiter who brings them room service.
What part of 'everything in our capacity' do they not understand? A jihadist website has advocated mixing strychnine with hand cream. Think of all the ways that hotel employees could ruin anyone's Grand Prix. A potent laxative could do it, an attack does not have to be lethal.
You cannot apply the level of security we now expect at airports to a motor race, the numbers are too great and, besides, Bahrain is too hot even in April. You have to let people into the circuit. An airport terminal is designed to process a few thousand passengers at any one time and tends to be spacious and air conditioned. Motor racing circuits are not designed to process spectators.
Remember the defrocked Irish priest at Silverstone a few years ago? Or the disgruntled sacked worker at Hockenheim? Security in Britain and Germany is pretty tight, but they got in and they caused disruption. Neither, however, had a loved one killed by a government. Neither was from a tradition which promises paradise to martyrs, along with six dozen virgins and all the sherbet you can eat.
Spanish police recently found a model aircraft carrying 2.2 kg of marijuana. The same weight of explosive and ball bearings could spoil your day and there could be a dozen of them.
You are probably right there. My objections in this silly game is the pretence that the race will actually happen when it is obvious that it should better not due to the missing security. We the fans will be forced to miss watching one race while Ecclestone and the teams will pocket the money. I just don't like to be lied to. The strategy is obviously "head in the sand" until it is too late to plan a replacement race. Bernie is taking the piss out of us all.Ray wrote:Honestly, us protesting the GP, supporting the GP, or being indifferent doesn't matter. Bernie will do what he wants to do and Bahrain will treat it's people like they want.
Look's like the pearl roundabout to me?Hail22 wrote:[img]http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Comp ... x2.jpg[img]
Doesn't look peaceful to me...
Middle Eastern regimes LOVE big American cars like those. I'm pretty sure they really like Chevrolet brand cars, when I was in Dubai I saw more Suburbans there than I do here in Atlanta on a daily basis. No surprise it's being towed either.mx_tifoso wrote:Disorder aside, I'm surprised that they have the Chevrolet Avalanche there. lol
I agree. It sucks, but I'm not really out anything because as a new college student I can barely afford fast internet much less cable to watch it. I'm not really out anything because I can't afford to put any money into watching F1. This season I'm relying solely on live streams that I can find on the internet, and news from sites like this. I don't like how Bernie and the teams are making out like bandits, but it's not really money out of my pocket and my politics and views aren't going to change anything in Formula 1 or Bahrain. As a military and war veteran I sincerely wish people would get along worldwide so we can all enjoy what life has to offer. Unfortunately, life isn't like that. :/WhiteBlue wrote:You are probably right there. My objections in this silly game is the pretence that the race will actually happen when it is obvious that it should better not due to the missing security. We the fans will be forced to miss watching one race while Ecclestone and the teams will pocket the money. I just don't like to be lied to. The strategy is obviously "head in the sand" until it is too late to plan a replacement race. Bernie is taking the piss out of us all.Ray wrote:Honestly, us protesting the GP, supporting the GP, or being indifferent doesn't matter. Bernie will do what he wants to do and Bahrain will treat it's people like they want.
Al-JazeeraThere’s a complaint that there’s excessive tear gas. What I’ve observed is a huge increase in the number of Molotov cocktails being thrown at police officers, night after night.
Joe SawardMany villages in Bahrain are now sprayed with the gas several times per week. At times it seems much of the country is affected: On a recent evening, Budaiya highway, the main east-west thoroughfare outside Manama, was blanketed with gas from clashes in several villages which sit along the road.
TradeArabia news serviceHuman rights groups say that at least 25 Bahrainis have been killed by excessive tear gas inhalation, 18 of them since the damning report on the country was published at the end of last year.
Joe SawardBusinesses in Bahrain have suffered major losses in the last few months and the present spate of demonstrations; sit-ins, legal and illegal rallies and acts of sabotage and vandalism have had serious consequences and continue to have a detrimental effect... Whether it is assaults on security men, streets being closed or even businesses being targeted purely on sectarian grounds, no civil society can tolerate this.
Just because the Saudi tanks are gone the actual security situation hasn't improved. The above sources prove that in fact security has deteriorated in comparison to 2011. Why does Bernie think that the protesters will not target the race, close the streets and react with sabotage and vandalism as they apparently do to other royal businesses?The smart folk have not booked expensive direct flights to and from Bahrain. They have booked Europe-China returns, bouncing through Dubai with You’llNeverGuess Airlines, and so the maximum loss is a Dubai-Bahrain-Dubai ticket. The hotels in Bahrain say they will give the money back.