Ferrari F2012

[Crucial_Xtreme]

The chassis isn't rigid enough, and a push-rod front suspension would fix it, but they're not going to fix it?

As it's my native tongue, I thought I understood English pretty well. However, that doesn't make any sense at all.

Ben AutoSprint has been all over the place. During both Bareclona tests the completely dogged the F2012, but said the suspension worked fine. Then some time at the end of the Australian GP, they said the pull rod front was the problem. Then last week they said it again & added that the chassis was flexing around where the wishbones meet the tub(last week when I was translating I asked the proper name for this exact point where wishbones meet tub). Then this week they're on about Sauber & still maintaining the pull rod & chassis flex is the problem but that they're not planning on changing it. I guess the did that picture for isht & giggles. Not quite sure. But I think they've proven we can only take their word with a grain of salt. Hope I made everything more clear.

[bhall]

That's as clear as I think is possible in this case. (I don't think anyone really knows what's going on.)

Maybe someone misunderstood the term flexure when discussing the front suspension?

EDIT: I'm just confused. If they change the front suspension, the resulting change of air flow would require modifications to the sidepod openings and likely to the sidepods themselves. If they change the sidepods, they'll have to modify the entire cooling package and the exhausts. If they change the exhausts, they'll have to modify the floor and the diffuser. It goes on and on and on and...

[Crucial_Xtreme]

That's as clear as I think is possible in this case. (I don't think anyone really knows what's going on.)

Maybe someone misunderstood the term flexure when discussing the front suspension?

Let's hope Ferrari does. Mugello is going to be quite interesting.

[Gilles 27]

The chassis isn't rigid enough, and a push-rod front suspension would fix it, but they're not going to fix it?

As it's my native tongue, I thought I understood English pretty well. However, that doesn't make any sense at all.

Ben AutoSprint has been all over the place. During both Bareclona tests the completely dogged the F2012, but said the suspension worked fine. Then some time at the end of the Australian GP, they said the pull rod front was the problem. Then last week they said it again & added that the chassis was flexing around where the wishbones meet the tub(last week when I was translating I asked the proper name for this exact point where wishbones meet tub). Then this week they're on about Sauber & still maintaining the pull rod & chassis flex is the problem but that they're not planning on changing it. I guess the did that picture for isht & giggles. Not quite sure. But I think they've proven we can only take their word with a grain of salt. Hope I made everything more clear.

In the past, "Autosprint" had very good reliable information from Ferrari, as a mole always blurted out what was going on at the Scuderia. IMHO Once they shout the mouth to this "mole", they can often only speculate how or even what Ferrari wants to improve in the near future.

[banibhusan]

I wish the Ferrari PR department is going through this thread.

May be they will be able to provide proper feedback to their engineers on what to do and what not to do.

@Ben:

There is a different rumour on every other site. And if they are to be believed, then we may see a complete new Ferrari spec B at Mugello except for the tyres and the livery.

[Vanja #66]

Weren't OZ rims supposed to have been yellow this year on F2012? I was really looking forward to that kind of paint job...

[Afterburner]

The conclusion i take from all this is that they can't change the suspension, why? Too much work or simply because it's helping them getting tires heated more quickly.

[Chuckjr]

Reading the last 20 or so posts proves beyond any reasonable doubt that nobody knows what is the problem exactly, what will fix it, if its possible to even fix it, and what Ferrari will do for the next 5 races. 

If this forum is confused and bewildered, I dare say there's no chance anyone knows anything as there is no better place or more brilliant/dedicated people on the web to get F1 technical info.

Absolutely incredible what is going on. 

Keep us posted Guys like Crucial, bhallg2k, and pierce99. Thanks.

[Gilles 27]

I've watched many after race reports on the last 2 Gp on tv, the italian (RaiUNO,Italia 1) the german talking TV (ORFeins,RTL) and french (TF1).
Than i read some press media. So, in each one of this interviews, Domenicali or Alonso speaks the whole time only about the "two problems"
- Less traction exit from the slow corners
- Topspeed

In any interview (Press,Radio, Tv or www) it was not mentioned how they would proceed in order to improve these areas.
So many italian Media began to speculate, wich areas must be change., and the rest follow these rumors....

[Gilles 27]

I wish the Ferrari PR department is going through this thread.

May be they will be able to provide proper feedback to their engineers on what to do and what not to do.

@Ben:

There is a different rumour on every other site. And if they are to be believed, then we may see a complete new Ferrari spec B at Mugello except for the tyres and the livery.

The Press department,with Mr. Colajani as chief, is one of the reason why the Ferrari since the Schumacher,Brawn era, goes more unappealing to the rest of the Formula 1fans... Unapropiated statements, and lightly arrogant when he speaks with journalist.
@banibhusan
You didn't know that?
We are all expert here ... We look and comment all this from our couch and eating chips and drink beer, but we are the best expert

[Gilles 27]

I wish the Ferrari PR department is going through this thread.

May be they will be able to provide proper feedback to their engineers on what to do and what not to do.

@Ben:

There is a different rumour on every other site. And if they are to be believed, then we may see a complete new Ferrari spec B at Mugello except for the tyres and the livery.

The Press department,with Mr. Colajani as chief, is one of the reason why the Ferrari since the Schumacher,Brawn era, goes more unappealing to the rest of the Formula 1fans... Unapropiated statements, and lightly arrogant when he speaks with journalist.
@banibhusan
You didn't know that?
We are all expert here ... We look and comment all this from our couch and eating chips and drink beer, but we are the best expert

[Abarth]

Chrisitiano Sponton writes that there are two areas the engineers are working on:
1. F-Duct Mercedes-style, to get some km/h more with DRS on.
2. New sidepod and exhaust configuration, to achieve more downforce at the rear

He also says that the rigidity problem between front suspension and monocoque seems solved and that there will be no change of the suspension scheme, and that all voices which suggest that Ferrari will change the suspension are unfoundet.

http://spontoncristiano.blogspot.com/

[elFranZ]

They team's PR has just announced on twitter that tomorrow, at 5.00 pm CET, there will be another Q&A lasting half an hour.

[Truzone]

Chrisitiano Sponton writes that there are two areas the engineers are working on:
1. F-Duct Mercedes-style, to get some km/h more with DRS on.
2. New sidepod and exhaust configuration, to achieve more downforce at the rear

He also says that the rigidity problem between front suspension and monocoque seems solved and that there will be no change of the suspension scheme, and that all voices which suggest that Ferrari will change the suspension are unfoundet.

http://spontoncristiano.blogspot.com/

I think Ferrari has other areas to improve before approach the F-Duct Mercedes-style. Such as the radiators, the packing density of the air flow that's not all allowed Freely, and exhaust system.

[raymondu999]

I'm not too sure on Mr. Sponton's work. He used to post here a long while back - but his source was always himself. He'd footnote his posts with saying that his source was his blog.

Of course he's also the one who was saying that there would be speakers under the floor and Byrne would put a "fund" on the car!