Ferrari F2012

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Pierce89
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amouzouris wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Maybe it's just a retired monocoque rhat they use for the sim?
maybe..but wouldn't it be more realistic for the driver if they used a newer monocoque so that they are in the position and angle that they will really be driving?
From what I've seen, virtually every top-quality F1-style simulator uses a retired monocoque. So , chances are, Ray is right.
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amouzouris
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I hope u didnt get me wrong...im not saying that ray is not right..i was just asking if it would make more sense to use a newer monocoque! :)

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No it would not. Why spend considerable time and expense making a new monocoque for a simulator - every single year?

It just an old retired monocoque. The driver just needs the pedals, wheels and seat set up right.
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n smikle wrote:No it would not. Why spend considerable time and expense making a new monocoque for a simulator - every single year?

It just an old retired monocoque. The driver just needs the pedals, wheels and seat set up right.
ok!! my mistake!! :D

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n smikle wrote:It just an old retired monocoque.
Or a damaged beyond 'usable' repair. They want to save the good ones for their car collector customers.

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Do the simulators they use offer physical feedback to the drivers (like the ones used at NASA or Northop) or are they purely just a screen and cockpit bolted to the ground and the only feedback is pedal resistance and steering wheel resistance.
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Chuckjr wrote:Do the simulators they use offer physical feedback to the drivers (like the ones used at NASA or Northop) or are they purely just a screen and cockpit bolted to the ground and the only feedback is pedal resistance and steering wheel resistance.
Much more advanced than the latter. Read here--> viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12496&p=332134#p332134

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haha. Wouldn't this be something. The McLaren solution seems to work well.

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Oddly enough, Ferrari has more experience with this type of solution than they do with the Sauber one. The difference between the Acer Ducks and the McLaren humps is a relative matter of degrees.

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bhallg2k wrote:Oddly enough, Ferrari has more experience with this type of solution than they do with the Sauber one. The difference between the Acer Ducks and the McLaren humps is a relative matter of degrees.
Agreed 110%. Honestly Ferrari & McLaren weren't that far off from each other. Which is a way I think somewhat shows Ferrari has potential and is thinking the right way. They just got it wrong. No excuse, I'm not saying that. But they're solutions were fairly similar.

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From reluctant sources it looks like Bahrain will be canned (I will put 40/60 probability as I refuse to be involved in that debacle). So this could Aid in Ferrari with more development hours, more tunnel tests and also straight line Aero tests.

Crucial/Bhall I think that solution would be the most viable/effecient aswell since the internal design of the exhaust marries up with the Macca Concept which would help by reducing hours developing a new exhaust manifold and such.
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What is the date of Muggelo test?
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!

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alogoc wrote:What is the date of Muggelo test?
1st of May

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amouzouris wrote:
alogoc wrote:What is the date of Muggelo test?
1st of May
thx!
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:Oddly enough, Ferrari has more experience with this type of solution than they do with the Sauber one. The difference between the Acer Ducks and the McLaren humps is a relative matter of degrees.
Agreed 110%. Honestly Ferrari & McLaren weren't that far off from each other. Which is a way I think somewhat shows Ferrari has potential and is thinking the right way. They just got it wrong. No excuse, I'm not saying that. But they're solutions were fairly similar.
while the exhaust situation certainly is'nt helping ferrari, i dont see them becoming a force even with it rectified, seems like flawed car.