Nico Rosberg has secured his first ever Formula One race win in dominant fashion. While his closest competitors had trouble in the pits or abandoned, Nico stayed out of trouble and won the race comfortably. Jenson Button finished second, Lewis Hamilton third.
Im not sure you do. How can history say he started from pole position when he was 6th 7th etc. He might qualify fastest but I dont think that counts as a pole START come Sundays stats.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
Correct. The penalty is applied AFTER qualifying.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
Yep. This is the same FIA that let the ruling go through that a suspension dampner (the TMD) on the Renault a few years back was a "movable aerodynamic device." Come up with something clever? That's cool, they'll just wait until you invest a few million before declaring it illegal.myurr wrote:It does seem rather arbitrary. After all the Mercedes rear wing appears to have a cover attached to the flap that's primary purpose appears to be to cover the ducts, yet that is deemed legal.Giblet wrote:I think Lotus is still mad their front ride height was preapproved then banned. Can't blame them really.
I've called for this in the past but the FIA really should set up a formal procedure via which a team can ask for a definitive ruling on a particular device so they can get approval before they invest the time and money in developing the part. At the moment it appears they can ask Charlie and then hope that the FIA remains consistent with Charlie's initial opinion.
I think your incorrect. Obviously its applied after as its otherwise impossible. When the final grid classification is released LH wont be on pole, he wont start the Chinese GP from pole position so the records will reflect that. Say JB gains the pole through this pen. End of the year will there be a list that has 21 pole positions sitters (JB and LH next to China) recorded out of 20 races, course there wont. There will be Button next to China pole as that is where he started the race from.gilgen wrote:Correct. The penalty is applied AFTER qualifying.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
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Makes me want to invest with PetronasGiblet wrote:One thing for sure Ray, is Petronas is getting a LOT of free exposure as pictures of the wing are plastered on every racing publication and sporting site around.
The records are for qualifying.. If you cross the line in q3 fastest you will have achieved pole position the timings don't account for penalties so as a result the penalty is a race day penalty.thestig84 wrote:I think your incorrect. Obviously its applied after as its otherwise impossible. When the final grid classification is released LH wont be on pole, he wont start the Chinese GP from pole position so the records will reflect that. Say JB gains the pole through this pen. End of the year will there be a list that has 21 pole positions sitters (JB and LH next to China) recorded out of 20 races, course there wont. There will be Button next to China pole as that is where he started the race from.gilgen wrote:Correct. The penalty is applied AFTER qualifying.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
Pole position statistics are counted on Sunday morning (the official grid printout from the FIA). So let's say Hamilton takes P1 in Q3. Button takes P2 in Q3. Button would be credited with pole position. Pole position is not the fastest qualifier; it's the frontmost starter, as of the FIA official grid printout.gilgen wrote:Correct. The penalty is applied AFTER qualifying.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
Giblet wrote:One thing for sure Ray, is Petronas is getting a LOT of free exposure as pictures of the wing are plastered on every racing publication and sporting site around.
All you need is for the whole top 5 to get a 5 spot penalty and because the penalties are issued in the order they were given then Hamilton would get the pole, simplegilgen wrote:Correct. The penalty is applied AFTER qualifying.n smikle wrote:I think you still get pole position statistic. But you don't get the grid position.
