BMW new front Wings?

[vis]

The FIA should ban that kind of stuff...it just looks rubbish. After all car racing is (hopefully) about the fans and why should we have to look at horrid cars.

I think FIA should ban any aero surface smaller than xxx dm2, so we will stop seeing all those messy winglets or so...

[DaveKillens]

It's all those niggling FIA regulations that force designers to put on tabs and winglets and everything else to clutter up clean lines. Personally, I don't appreciate all the extra clutter. I even have trouble with the airbox camera "T".
This new arraingement for the BMW is just more airflow management. Obviously, it straightens the air over the nose, thus improving the cockpit, rear chassis, and center of rear wing.

[scarbs]

arent the 2008 aero rules designed to ease some of the this clutter?

[i70q7m7ghw]

The most simple thing the FIA can do to reduce downforce is to set a god damn limit, its not that hard to say "this is how much downforce your allowed, now use it..." Forget constantly banning new devices, theres no point.

Also with this damn engine homologation to stop uncontrollable speeds and the apparently "pointless" process of increasing maximum revs..... SET A MAXIMUM REV LIMIT!!!!

Sometimes I wonder if the people at the FIA (well Max who couldn't even get quitting his job right) actually know what they are talking about....

[Scuderia_Russ]

The FIA should ban that kind of stuff.

I thought they did in the late 90's. Remember Jordan, Arrows and Sauber popping up with wings on the sidepods and cockpit right in fromt of the driver?

[JimmyK]

The most simple thing the FIA can do to reduce downforce is to set a god damn limit, its not that hard to say "this is how much downforce your allowed, now use it..." Forget constantly banning new devices, theres no point.

Also with this damn engine homologation to stop uncontrollable speeds and the apparently "pointless" process of increasing maximum revs..... SET A MAXIMUM REV LIMIT!!!!

Nay, I would strongly oppose both of those, whilst they are both workable solutions, I feel they take away too much... individuality from the teams. I mean if they all have the same power in the engines and the same downforce, then it would take away one of the main techy attractions of F1, the teams' constant battle to get ahead of each other (and given Toyota and Honda are strongly opposed to full engine homoglation, how would they respond to that?).
I think eventually you'd have all the teams with cars that looked the same (once the most effecient solution had been worked out) and, although it would be fairer on the drivers if their cars were more equal, I feel it would take too much away from the sport.

[yzfr7]

The only answer I have is that these ears/horns/wings help manage the airflow disrupted by the front suspension, though I still think they are too high for this. Similar to Mclaren's horns, but they manage airflow from the driver's head/airbox.

[j4kwan]

i have to admit that if i had 2 wings like this sticking out in front of me, I'd go all cross-eyed. hahaha

[Spencifer_Murphy]

Hey I bet the FIA will ban this as soon as it runs in anger at a GP weekend. Remember Monaco (was it 2001 or 2002?) when Arrows (and I think Jordan?) ran things that looked like these except with a wing mounted horizontally at the top of them?

They were banned immediately for decreasing visibility to the drivers. This is almost an identical looking structure (aerodynamically completely different, but visually basically the same) and will cause just as must disruption to the drivers vision.

They'll ban it.

[Venom]

It looks horrible.

yeh Spencifer_Murphy, I remember that at moncao, it was really a lough. It really suprises me when such intelligent man come up with such stupid ideas.

[NickT]

Yeah I agree, but you'll upset Max Mosley if you keep making comments like that

[i70q7m7ghw]

The most simple thing the FIA can do to reduce downforce is to set a god damn limit, its not that hard to say "this is how much downforce your allowed, now use it..." Forget constantly banning new devices, theres no point.

Also with this damn engine homologation to stop uncontrollable speeds and the apparently "pointless" process of increasing maximum revs..... SET A MAXIMUM REV LIMIT!!!!

Nay, I would strongly oppose both of those, whilst they are both workable solutions, I feel they take away too much... individuality from the teams. I mean if they all have the same power in the engines and the same downforce, then it would take away one of the main techy attractions of F1, the teams' constant battle to get ahead of each other (and given Toyota and Honda are strongly opposed to full engine homoglation, how would they respond to that?).
I think eventually you'd have all the teams with cars that looked the same (once the most effecient solution had been worked out) and, although it would be fairer on the drivers if their cars were more equal, I feel it would take too much away from the sport.

No think about it. They would have to put all their resources in to building a well balanced car and make best use of the downforce they have available. They could put it all into the rear wing for instance (even though that would be stupid). The cars would be by no means "equal". Who said they would have the same power? They would all run at a maximum amount of revs but I am sure they would find other ways of making power.

[ss.vamsikrishna]

I think i am not sure is BMW car set up is having a low polar moment of inertia so these will give more stability during straight lines (like plane's vertical stablizers) and since having low polar moment of inertia they will fast at cornering and these vertical wings will also help in cornering as both
the wings will produce different lateral forces and these force difference in
both wings will help in cornering.....what do u say guys......

[Mikey_s]

I say.... watch out in cross winds!

[jaslfc]

they looking for more realestate to sell to the sponsors.. hehe..
but its good to see new radical steps taken by engineers..