Ferrari F2012

[myurr]

Shark fin, cooling duct, acer duct profile. Basically most of the back of that cover has been remodelled.

[Richard]

Crucial and many others have posted some really good technical pictures and posts, such a shame they are getting lost in discussion about the circuit in China.

Please respect the efforts of those who are making really good technical contributions about the F2012, so do not swamp good car threads with race chatter.

Discussions about circuit characteristics and the race have been moved to the race thread....

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If your comment is not about a feature on the car then it does not belong in this thread. Simple!

[Forza Ferrari]

Shark fin, cooling duct, acer duct profile. Basically most of the back of that cover has been remodelled.

Does anyone else wonder why , if the parts are available to them, they did not use the engine cover for quali or race ??

[radosav]

Shark fin, cooling duct, acer duct profile. Basically most of the back of that cover has been remodelled.

Does anyone else wonder why , if the parts are available to them, they did not use the engine cover for quali or race ??

they are probably made for bahrain, it will be hotter there, and they brought them in china cause they going directly to bahrain in few days.

[amouzouris]

that's correct...and we dont know for sure about the remodeled acer ducts...it was just a side view and the back of them where the cut outs are(or are not if they were remodeled) could not be seen because there was an engineer in front...when compared to launch pics..they didnt look different..

EDIT: here is the photo in question:

[radosav]

i dont think they will do anything new until mugello. it takes time to calculate new exhaust and sidepods or rear end without acer ducts.

[amouzouris]

i dont think they will do anything new until mugello. it takes time to calculate new exhaust and sidepods or rear end without acer ducts.

maybe they'll give the launch exhausts a shot in bahrain..they have some experience with them from running them in jerez (they failed..yes i know..but its experience none the less)

[radosav]

i dont think they will do anything new until mugello. it takes time to calculate new exhaust and sidepods or rear end without acer ducts.

maybe they'll give the launch exhausts a shot in bahrain..they have some experience with them from running them in jerez (they failed..yes i know..but its experience none the less)

thy may do that cause they have nothing to lose, and bahrain weather is more costant than FP weather of first 3 races so they can plan something to test during FP's.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

they are probably made for bahrain, it will be hotter there, and they brought them in china cause they going directly to bahrain in few days.

It was weird they had the new engine cover out on display but not using it. Considering the heat in bahrain, I suspect we'll see the new engine cover make an appearance on the car this week.

Before the week started Fry said 5 updates to the car, some visible, some not so visible. Seems all but one(maybe) was visible to me.

New RW

New winglets

New FW(wasnt used)

New turning vane on the edge of the floor just ahead of barge boards

And I guess we can count new engine cover although not used.

[alogoc]

The shark-fin on that engine cover that wasnt used looks very similar to Sauber one!

[bhall]

Does the profile of the China spec wing look different, or is its modified Gurney flap just making it all look different? It looks to me like the team has increased the wing's AoA for more downforce, even with DRS activated. The modified and increased end plate slots would appear to bear this out, as they allow for more pressure to be bled off.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Does the profile of the China spec wing look different, or is its modified Gurney flap just making it all look different? It looks to me like the team has increased the wing's AoA for more downforce, even with DRS activated. The modified and increased end plate slots would appear to bear this out, as they allow for more pressure to be bled off.

I think the main aim of this new RW and the V-Grooves is to help reduce drag. What I'm not positive about is why use the flow separators(bottom arrows) that lead all the way up to the v-grooves?? I'm not sure why separating the airflow into 5 separate sections is helping.

The shape of the endplate gills is quite different from China as well. The RW is one area Ferrari has went their own direction. Lots of small changes to it.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

As you can see above Ferrari modified the floor a bit. The F1 site says a small fin & vertical turning vane. I've scoured the pictures and there's no great pics of this detail. I can see the vertical fin clearly but the arrow for the supposed turning vane in the picture above isn't clearly seen on the car. My question is, what do you think the visible vertical fin is accomplishing? It's not like other teams, as theirs seems more complex. Below are some comparisons. Right click>view image on all pics

China before the update(also used in Australia & Malaysia)


China after update



Sauber for comparisons sake



Is the Ferrari fin directing air to the vertical scoop at the floor edge in hope of getting/keeping as much air as possible on the floor and getting it around to the rear coke bottle area?

[hardingfv32]

What I'm not positive about is why use the flow separators(bottom arrows) that lead all the way up to the v-grooves?? I'm not sure why separating the airflow into 5 separate sections is helping.

Wing Fences...."They obstruct span-wise airflow along the wing, and prevent the entire wing from stalling at once" on aircraft wings.

The under side of the RW main element seems to have a 3D contour.

Would the fences have to fit in a the rear wing spec box?

Brian

[myurr]

i dont think they will do anything new until mugello. it takes time to calculate new exhaust and sidepods or rear end without acer ducts.

maybe they'll give the launch exhausts a shot in bahrain..they have some experience with them from running them in jerez (they failed..yes i know..but its experience none the less)

thy may do that cause they have nothing to lose, and bahrain weather is more costant than FP weather of first 3 races so they can plan something to test during FP's.

Unlikely. The quoted reason that the launch exhausts didn't work out is that they were overheating the rear tyres. In Bahrain the high temperatures are already likely to be a problem, so couple that with the exhausts and you're just going to destroy your tyres no matter what other benefits it may bring.