Ferrari F2012

[Crucial_Xtreme]

the top part of the monocoque is not structural...is it?


could i t be a new chassis...are there any similar photos from previous race weekends? sauber style nose hole possible??

The hole has been there since Australia. I'd like to see them go that route with the duct from underneath to top of the nose.

Australia

[amouzouris]

the top part of the monocoque is not structural...is it?


could i t be a new chassis...are there any similar photos from previous race weekends? sauber style nose hole possible??

The hole has been there since Australia. I'd like to see them go that route with the duct from underneath to top of the nose.

Australia
http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/d12aus396.jpg

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/517/img1773x3.jpg

there is also a lot of space for the DDRS tubes there...

[radosav]

why is one wheel-nut red and other blue?

[amouzouris]

why is one wheel-nut red and other blue?

to distinguish between them..??

[radosav]

why is one wheel-nut red and other blue?

to distinguish between them..??

both are front wheel-nuts, they should be the same

[bhall]

If you aim your hot air stream incorrectly(as Ferrari have done), what happens is that you also choke off your vortex, because duh, hot air is also more viscous and forces your vortex to dissipate. In short if you aim your hot air in the right places, more downforce is made because a stronger vortex causes greater pressure differential etc.

If Ferrari does indeed modify its original exhaust solution, as they've said is their intention, I think part of the fix will be a slot in the floor ahead of the rear wheel. I won't call the problem tire squirt, because I've seen that defined several ways, but one of the problems of an open-wheel car is flow distortion. Air flow around spinning wheels is very unstable; for all intents and purposes, it does as it pleases. In fact, stabilizing that flow was the reason behind wheel fairings.

I've got to imagine that such distortion would annihilate most efforts to seal off the diffuser with weakened exhaust. The vortex from a floor slot should complement the effect of the exhaust in that area.

[amouzouris]

to distinguish between them..??

both are front wheel-nuts, they should be the same

after thinking about it for the last 10 minutes i think i know why...probably the left-hand wheel nuts have a right-hand thread and the right-hand wheel nuts have a left-hand thread...that would be to ensure that the thread on each nut runs contrary to the primary direction of travel on all four wheels so that the rotation of each wheel tends to tighten the nut...not working it loose..

[radosav]

to distinguish between them..??

both are front wheel-nuts, they should be the same

after thinking about it for the last 10 minutes i think i know why...probably the left-hand wheel nuts have a right-hand thread and the right-hand wheel nuts have a left-hand thread...that would be to ensure that the thread on each nut runs contrary to the primary direction of travel on all four wheels so that the rotation of each wheel tends to tighten the nut...not working it loose..

yes,that must be it. thanks

[Lycoming]

you are correct as to the reason for the color difference.

[amouzouris]

you are correct as to the reason for the color difference.

what? really?

[bhall]

The colors do denote the side of the car on which they're used, but they're threaded so that they tighten under braking, not acceleration.

[xpensive]

The colors do denote the side of the car on which they're used, but they're threaded so that they tighten under braking, not acceleration.

I wonder what material those nuts are made from, they look typically anodized to me, could they really be Aluminium?

[alogoc]

the red ones are Ferrari's the blue ones they stole from Redbull!

[amouzouris]

yes i think they are aluminium...@bhallg why only under braking though..aren't the wheels spinning in the same direction??

[Crucial_Xtreme]

If Ferrari does indeed modify its original exhaust solution, as they've said is their intention, I think part of the fix will be a slot in the floor ahead of the rear wheel. I won't call the problem tire squirt, because I've seen that defined several ways, but one of the problems of an open-wheel car is flow distortion. Air flow around spinning wheels is very unstable; for all intents and purposes, it does as it pleases. In fact, stabilizing that flow was the reason behind wheel fairings.

I've got to imagine that such distortion would annihilate most efforts to seal off the diffuser with weakened exhaust. The vortex from a floor slot should complement the effect of the exhaust in that area.

Yeah I think the Piola drawings showing exhaust gasses getting blown into the slot ahead of the rear tyre isn't really accurate.

The reason for the slot ahead of the rear tyre minimize vorticies produced by a spinning tyre. The Sauber solution was questioned by Red Bull & other teams in Malaysia when it was first spotted. Needless to say, RB showed up to China with a similar solution.

Ferrari ran something similar in pre-season testing when they tested the newest floor & diffuser. Below is a picture and just ahead of the rear tyre is 3 slots which should accomplish basically the same thing as the Sauber/RB slot.



Like you, I expect the upgraded F2012 to incorporate this solution. I'm sure they want to get that RB style floor/diffuser working if at all possible. I'm also thinking we might see a revised nose. I think a little less abrupt than the current one and will probably also use the Sauber Nose-Duct solution as well. )