Ferrari F2012

[Crabbia]

yes it doesnt look too different..but then again the launch spec from the modified spec...dont look too different...also the photos are from different angles so we cant tell...

No the floor would be different if they were going to go the sauber route. the sauber floor is built up to the sidepod and has no curve. in the f2012 the floor/sidepod interface still has a very sharp curve from the side of the car to the gearbox.

the floor behind the sidepods should look roughly like this:

[f1316]

yes it doesnt look too different..but then again the launch spec from the modified spec...dont look too different...also the photos are from different angles so we cant tell...

Yes, that's what I was thinking. I'm most interested in the discrepnancy between Alonso saying the car would be exactly the same and Domenicali saying they might revert to the launch exhaust layout.

As has been mentioned before, if - as it seemed in testing - moving the exhaust between the two positions is a relatively quick job, then I can imagine Q1 & 2 providing a good chance to test. If they burn up some tyres then so be it, and they've a decent amount of time to learn more since they changed layouts.

Still, I don't get the impression they will do that.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

yes it doesnt look too different..but then again the launch spec from the modified spec...dont look too different...also the photos are from different angles so we cant tell...

No the floor would be different if they were going to go the sauber route. the sauber floor is built up to the sidepod and has no curve. in the f2012 the floor/sidepod interface still has a very sharp curve from the side of the car to the gearbox.

the floor behind the sidepods should look roughly like this:

Nobody is talking about the Sauber solution, at least not in Bahrain. Last week Domenicali said something about switching back to the launch exhaust position. Hence the comment about not having to move the exhaust much.

[alogoc]

Could the higher exhaust position indicate that they will try original exhaust layout by using coanda efect to divert gases to brake ducts or diffusor?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Could the higher exhaust position indicate that they will try original exhaust layout by using coanda efect to divert gases to brake ducts or diffusor?

The exhaust isn't any higher than it was in China. It sure doesn't look to me from the pictures on the previous page I posted. AUS vs Bahrain. They look the same to me.

[Crabbia]

Nobody is talking about the Sauber solution, at least not in Bahrain. Last week Domenicali said something about switching back to the launch exhaust position. Hence the comment about not having to move the exhaust much.

oh sorry i misread the original post then. my apologies. i think the only way you could be sure is to see it with the covers on and see the exhaust position relative to the cover. in free space like that you have no point of reference to judge such a small difference.

it looks identical to me. besides its not like the original position was a game changer.

[alogoc]

Could the higher exhaust position indicate that they will try original exhaust layout by using coanda efect to divert gases to brake ducts or diffusor?

The exhaust isn't any higher than it was in China. It sure doesn't look to me from the pictures on the previous page I posted. AUS vs Bahrain. They look the same to me.

ask truzonef1

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Scarbs mad an observation that has seemed to go over all of our heads regarding Ferrari pit stops. Have a look at Ferrari threads versus McLaren vs Lotus for instance. Ferrari doesn't even have 3 threads, whereas most teams have a minimum of 4 usually 6-8

Ferrari


McLaren


Lotus



https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/ ... 5113115650

Why are Ferrari pitstops so quick, one more reason = there's barely 3 turns of thread on the axle for the nut, other teams 6-8 turns.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Could the higher exhaust position indicate that they will try original exhaust layout by using coanda efect to divert gases to brake ducts or diffusor?

The exhaust isn't any higher than it was in China. It sure doesn't look to me from the pictures on the previous page I posted. AUS vs Bahrain. They look the same to me.

ask truzonef1

That's his opinion. Just like my opinion is they are the same. Doesn't make either opinion fact.

[dren]

That was a good observation by Scarbs. Are the wheels homoligated at the start of the season? This looks like something the other teams would be able to easily jump on.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

More Bahrain detail

[muelte]

Monkey seat on F2012:

http://www.formula1.com/wi/0x0/sutton/2 ... brn413.jpg
http://www.formula1.com/wi/0x0/sutton/2 ... brn414.jpg

[dren]

Look at the space between the side pod cover and the radiators! Looks to be maybe 1/2" or so.

[Chuckjr]

That was a good observation by Scarbs. Are the wheels homoligated at the start of the season? This looks like something the other teams would be able to easily jump on.

Indeed it is. Having half or 1/3rd the turns cuts time and the thicker threads would tend to be less susceptible to cross threading...Macca could learn something in this.

Well done Crucial--as always.

[hardingfv32]

What would the team be adjusting with this setup? Are they just verifying that the splitter would pass the test if required?

Brian