Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari 2012 - not the car!

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It looks a bit better like this:

Woking - McLaren (1996)
Brackley – Tyrrell, BAR (3 years 1997-8)
Enstone - Benetton (3 years 1999-2001)
Milton Keynes – Jaguar, Red Bull Racing (6 years 2002-2007)
Brackley – Honda, Brawn (2 years 2008-09)

Advisory roles at Hispania (2010) & Marussia (2011)

Returns to F1 full time with Ferrari in 2011.

Finally, F1 is a small incestuous world and people do tend move around a bit more than you'd expect in a normal industry. For example if you have a problem with wind tunnel calibration you poach the person in the paddock with the reputation for getting wind tunnels sorted. Once he's fixed that problem and getting a bit bored by routine, he's then poached by the next team with a wind tunnel problem.

I recall there's a chap mentioned in another thread who hopped between two teams several times on a 2 or 3 year cycle.

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Makes sense.
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Iley and Tombazis have a habit of pingponging between McLaren and Ferrari IIRC
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Will this help change the course?

:arrow: Ferrari hire RBR man
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raceman wrote:Will this help change the course?

:arrow: Ferrari hire RBR man
Funny. Nowhere in the article does it say that he was a Red Bull employee. But look where he has been. Doesnt sound very hopeful for Ferrari.

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gilgen wrote:
raceman wrote:Will this help change the course?

:arrow: Ferrari hire RBR man
Funny. Nowhere in the article does it say that he was a Red Bull employee. But look where he has been. Doesnt sound very hopeful for Ferrari.
So what if it doesn't say it, point is he worked for Red Bull. McLaren also. You don't even know who the guy is and already are saying it doesn't sound hopeful? :lol:

He wasn't brought in to be head of Aero, he was brought in to help make sure data correlation from both tunnels & CFD is streamlined. He working with Marussia and/or HRT was an advisory role. It doesn't reflect negatively on his CV, of which you're obviously unaware.

Woking - McLaren (1996)
Brackley – Tyrrell, BAR (3 years 1997-8)
Enstone - Benetton (3 years 1999-2001)
Milton Keynes – Jaguar, Red Bull Racing (6 years 2002-2007)
Brackley – Honda, Brawn (2 years 2008-09)

Advisory roles at Hispania (2010) & Marussia (2011)

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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17147/ ... -maranello

@f1enigma - Omnicorse : Ben Agathangelou joins Ferrari - confirmed
Good move -- assuming he is used effectively.
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Lorenzo_Bandini wrote:http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17147/ ... -maranello

@f1enigma - Omnicorse : Ben Agathangelou joins Ferrari - confirmed
Assuming this is true: Good move -- assuming he is used effectively.
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In F1, pretty much everybody has worked for everybody at some point or other

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IIRC, Agathangelou has never worked for Marussia. I have made a quick search, and even if wikipedia cites marussia, in 2010 and 2011 he was listed as Dallara consultant in the list of FSAE judges in Italy.

So I think it is more correct to say he has worked for Dallara from mid 2009 till today.
So probably knowing Italian would be an advantage for him in Maranello, where English is much less a koine than on track.
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FP2 might be more conclusive in terms of times right?

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banibhusan
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It's the same car with the same problems. You can still expect them to be a second off the pace here.

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banibhusan wrote:It's the same car with the same problems. You can still expect them to be a second off the pace here.
Despite what Alonson had said though, it's not exactly the same car as Shanghai: there's a different camera arrangement above the driver's head which looks like it's being done for aerodynamic reasons, and a small wing above the diffuser. Subtle changes of course, but it's good to see even these in back-to-back races.

I agree that the gap will probably be maintained, however, since they've also stated that neither of the two races (China, Bahrain) are suited to the car.

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As myself and Crucial have stated via various sources these are what you would call, Entree sized updates before the mains update for Barcelona followed by the deserts upgrade around the period of the SPA race.
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Hail22 wrote:As myself and Crucial have stated via various sources these are what you would call, Entree sized updates before the mains update for Barcelona followed by the deserts upgrade around the period of the SPA race.
I think we all realise that. Having a test at Mugello obviously means that's bound to be the focal point of the upgrage, but I'm still very interested in these incremental updates being brought race by race.