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A team from the Porsche Supercup, a supporting series during the upcoming Grand Prix of Bahrain this weekend has cancelled its participation in the race, outing its doubts about the safety at the middle-east country.
This.strad wrote:You can really tell who has an understanding of the downtrodden.
The race is a definite mistake whether anyone gets hurt or not.
So much vested interest..it's a shame.
To those who condemn them: What would you do? Have them simply walk up bowl in hand and say "Please sir..I'd like more"?
Those in power aren't giving up anything,,,I must be wrested away.
And that's achieved by injuring or murdering civilians?strad wrote:Those in power aren't giving up anything,,,I must be wrested away.
Argentina invaded UK? I always though it was imperialistic war over a small group of islands rich with natural resources, in Southern Atlantic.myurr wrote:Do you not think a war where the aggressor country is the host country of a GP and the teams and Bernie come from the other country involved in that war, that the circumstances are just a tinsy bit different to Bahrain?...SeijaKessen wrote:Another interesting point that seems to have been forgotten is that when the Falkland War broke out, the 1982 Grand Prix of Argentina was canceled because Bernie had fears of being taken hostage.
Which kind of goes to my whole point that Bernie only cares about his own safety.
Russia, China, and India do not need F1 to race there.myurr wrote:Or it was a war about self determination for the small group of people who actually live there. Doesn't that perfectly illustrate how everything is relative and that everything you've said is merely your point of view and not gospel?
Russia is corrupt with state sponsored murder, China is an oppressive regime that murders students with tanks and has an abysmal record on human rights, India is just as bad, the USA invades other sovereign nations in the name of world peace, the UK is an old colonial power, etc. I challenge you to name one single race on the grid where it is impossible to find some objection from somewhere in the world to the ruling body. So why does Bahrain which is just one troubled country among all these others receive your wrath whilst all these other races, regimes, and grubby deals completely pass you by without mention?
myurr wrote:Or it was a war about self determination for the small group of people who actually live there. Doesn't that perfectly illustrate how everything is relative and that everything you've said is merely your point of view and not gospel?
Russia is corrupt with state sponsored murder, China is an oppressive regime that murders students with tanks and has an abysmal record on human rights, India is just as bad, the USA invades other sovereign nations in the name of world peace, the UK is an old colonial power, etc.
Monaco - no army, no wars, no invasions, no murders, no human rights violation, no poverty, no huger.myurr wrote:I challenge you to name one single race on the grid where it is impossible to find some objection from somewhere in the world to the ruling body. So why does Bahrain which is just one troubled country among all these others receive your wrath whilst all these other races, regimes, and grubby deals completely pass you by without mention?
http://www.f1today.net/en/news/crown-prince-teams-not-targets-of-bahrain-violence wrote:
Crown Prince: "Teams not targets of Bahrain violence"
Published on 20 Apr 2012 23:19
Bahrain's Crown Prince on Friday ruled out cancelling the troubled island kingdom's Grand Prix. "I think cancelling just empowers extremists," he told reporters, whilst standing alongside F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone.
Pressure on the race organisers, Ecclestone and the FIA to cancel the race has only intensified after Force India and Sauber revealed their brushes with petrol bombs. "I can absolutely guarantee that any problems that may or may not happen are not directed at F1," the Crown Prince insisted.
Ecclestone, meanwhile, pointed his finger at the media. "There are other countries much higher up the priority list you should be writing about," he told the scrum of reporters.
"Go to Syria and write about those things there because it's more important than here." When asked about the violent clashes between Bahraini protesters and the police, Ecclestone said: "It's a lot of nonsense. You guys love it."
However, he did admit that going ahead with the race is "a little bit silly" for the Bahrain government because it gives the protesters "such an incredible platform." (GMM)
http://www.sportal.co.in/motorsport-news-display/f1-bosses-toe-party-line-172569 wrote:
F1 bosses toe party line
20/4/2012 10:00 PM
Formula One team bosses have kept to the party line and backed the decision to go ahead with the Bahrain Grand Prix on Sunday.
The lead up to this week's F1 action has focused on the current political unrest in the tiny Middle Eastern kingdom and whether it is proper for the race to go ahead.
The issue intensified on Wednesday when a car carrying Force India team members got caught in traffic caused by protesters and was almost hit by a Molotov cocktail as the dissidents clashed with police.
But despite all the pressure to stop the GP, the team principals of McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull, Lotus, Mercedes and Force India again supported the decision to go ahead with the race, at a press conference on Friday.
Martin Whitmarsh of McLaren said his team had been happy with security so far.
"There have undoubtedly been difficult times here but from a pure team perspective, we've been comfortable with the situation," Whitmarsh said.
"Clearly we race as an international sport all over the world and we have security concerns and issues at a number or races and we take that very seriously, and we're cautious, and we try to take the right precautions."
Ferrari's Stefano Domenicali argued that all security promises had been fulfilled.
"We have received all the guarantees from the organisers, the federation, the embassy, and it is pretty clear at the moment that it is like that," Domenicali said.
Red Bull's Christian Horner believes the political pressure on F1 this week had been unfair.
"Formula One is a sport at the end of the day and it's wrong for it to be used politically," Horner said.
"We're here to race, we trust in the FIA, in the decisions that they made, and we're comfortable with the decisions that they have made."
Whitmarsh agreed.
"Ultimately we're a race team," Whitmarsh said. "We're here to go motor racing and that's our number one priority."
But Bob Fernley of Force India had a slightly different take on the role of F1, but still agreed the race should be run.
"The Formula One programme has brought the world's media here, it gives a good platform for debate and hopefully it will help with the healing process for Bahrain, and that's why we're here," Fernley said
There are still parts of the uk, specifically just up the road from me in northern ireland were sectarianism is still rampant.richard_leeds wrote:I can't imagine what it must be like to live in a society where sectarianism and discrimination dictate your path in life. Nor can I imagine how intolerable life must have become to trigger civil disobedience that leads to the destruction of your own community. Most (all?) of us have never been in those conditions, so who are we to judge.
When I see these events unfolding, my thoughts are "there but for the grace of God go I". It is an accident of birth that lets me sit here at my laptop looking out over the peaceful Dales, and not a stone throwing youth in some intifada.
A:Seeing how big that protest was, I wonder if Sunday this people will march to what is the circuit, only some km away. Who will gonna stopped them and how?
Q:The same way they stopped us today from heading to the highway, a huge wall of tear gas that is way too potent to say the least, behind that a huge riot police presence with all sort of vehicles. You can even make it to them before succumbing to tear gas and the few ones with gas masks (as well as large enough balls) get the sh!t kicked out of them if they last long enough in the area of proceed forward.
A:Can you please tell us if something has changed this weekend with the arrival of F1? Are the protests always like this and always so many people? Are protesters speaking about F1 and how to stop the race?
An Al Jazeera English documentary on the Arab spring in Bahrain. PLease view to understand what is going on.Nothing changed with the arrival of F1 besides the media exposure, we've been as al jazeera puts it "screaming in the dark" for over a year. Size and frequency of the protests hardly changed it's always been this active here.
Talk about disturbing the race is limited to using protest in large numbers in the capital and the highway leading to the circuit to delay proceedings, There is no tack of any protest at the track everyone knows it's a fortress there.
