Bahrain GP 2012 - Sakhir

[beelsebob]

It seems in the picture that alo is by the ros sidepod.... Not fully behind...

The video shows Rosberg was fully ahead.

@ Myurr

There is a precedant. Rosberg had done this the lap before, so the driver behind has to make concessions for such a move.

Either way, he is fully ahead and can move in one direction to cover his position.
He did not swerve into Alonso or Hamilton, he was fully ahead. Had they been wheel to wheel that is different, but Rosberg was always ahead.

The responsibility then falls on the following driver IMO

I would agree with you entirely, if I agreed with you about being fully ahead. I see both Alonso and Hamilton as having been along side.

[CHT]

After this race you can hardly say the RBR doesn't have qualifying pace. They were 1-3.

RBR has definite found the solution to the exhaust layout. Did you guys notice how quickly Vettel was able to pull away from Lewis at the start of the race?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

@Beelsebob

I dont see it that way

They had momentum, but at no point did they ever have enough track to pull off the manoeuvre by being alongside.
The pictures and video go some way to testifying this.

[beelsebob]

@Beelsebob

I dont see it that way

They had momentum, but at no point did they ever have enough track to pull off the manoeuvre by being alongside.
The pictures and video go some way to testifying this.

I think then that we've found the root of our disagreement, I see the pictures as supporting that they were partially along side. I think we can now safely wait and see what the stewards say about whether they were or weren't along side.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Where is there enough track to overtake Rosberg?

There isn't. The following driver needs to use the track to make the overtake legitimate.
And as Rosberg is doing the "one motion defense" I cannot see where Alonso or Hamilton thought they would overtake him.

[beelsebob]

Where is there enough track to overtake Rosberg?

There isn't – because rosberg has made an illegal move crowding Alonso off the edge of the track, when Alonso got along side, there was enough track.

[myurr]

Where is there enough track to overtake Rosberg?

There isn't. The following driver needs to use the track to make the overtake legitimate.
And as Rosberg is doing the "one motion defense" I cannot see where Alonso or Hamilton thought they would overtake him.

Any chance of actually posting some pictures of the Hamilton overtake to back up your opinion stated as fact? I can't find anything online yet and it was only given one crappy replay on the live feed.

[Maelstrom]

MSC:Good Race overall clearly the Merc's were suffering tyre wear..a lot
Nicoangerous drive? pushing both Alonso and Hamilton out of the track..

Why do you say they were suffering tyre wear? They looked just as quick as anybody else except the front runners.

[zoro_f1]

i think this is williams and force india.

[Traction]

Where is there enough track to overtake Rosberg?

There isn't. The following driver needs to use the track to make the overtake legitimate.
And as Rosberg is doing the "one motion defense" I cannot see where Alonso or Hamilton thought they would overtake him.

Memories of Vettel overtaking Alonso last season....imola I think it was...half the car off the track....

[beelsebob]

i think this is williams and force india.

Then you need your eyes tested.

[WhiteBlue]

I thought Seb was funny in the press conference about not doing a celebration in lap and pulling off into the pit lane exit.

You were just told to pull off?
SV: Yeah, I think it’s not the first time you saw that. It was a very quick race, the
pace was extremely high, we had no time at any stage to rest, so a lot of pressure
always from behind. So pushing hard and yeah, I was too exhausted to do the in-lap!
Except you had to run the whole pitlane…
SV: By then I’d found some extra KERS

[cheapracer]

I saw him (NR) making two illegal moves..

Not your position to state that, F1 has Stewards and that's what they do and after they take in and process considerably more evidence than what's available to you, then we will know better.

[beelsebob]

I saw him (NR) making two illegal moves..

Not your position to state that, F1 has Stewards and that's what they do and after they take in and process considerably more evidence than what's available to you, then we will know better.

s/illegal/what I saw as being in contravention of rules 16.1 e and g, and rule 20.4, and hence illegal/

Done

[stefan_]