Ferrari F2012

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Chuckjr wrote:It seems Ferrari have no intent to go the Macca or Sauber way.
Please enlighten me then :)
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OmniCorse reports Ferrari mechanics will work late into the day today as new parts will arrive from Maranello for Fernando to test tomorrow. :up:

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17593/ ... la-ferrari


I think I've seen this before today, but maybe not.
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I'd say that provides access to the end of those 2 struts for adjustment purposes, and likely would have a plug in normally?
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Teechnical wrote:
Chuckjr wrote:It seems Ferrari have no intent to go the Macca or Sauber way.
Please enlighten me then :)
Every reasonable report coming out of maranello consistently states the team has no intent to change their acer exhaust concept or front suspension for that matter. All these delusions people have been offering re the exhaust going the way of Macca or Sauber are just that--a dilution. I may eat my words here, but after scouring this site for the last 2 months or so, nothing ever out of maranello has stated anything other than the acer duct is the way they are going and thats it. Same with the pull rod fronts.
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Chuckjr wrote:
Teechnical wrote:
Chuckjr wrote:It seems Ferrari have no intent to go the Macca or Sauber way.
Please enlighten me then :)
Every reasonable report coming out of maranello consistently states the team has no intent to change their acer exhaust concept or front suspension for that matter. All these delusions people have been offering re the exhaust going the way of Macca or Sauber are just that--a dilution. I may eat my words here, but after scouring this site for the last 2 months or so, nothing ever out of maranello has stated anything other than the acer duct is the way they are going and thats it. Same with the pull rod fronts.
Gene said we were working on Sauber style exhausts.

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Flow vis on the floor under the exhaust:

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http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2456/ferrinlet.jpg

isn't this a tunnel simillar to the one RB ditched?
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alogoc wrote:http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2456/ferrinlet.jpg

isn't this a tunnel simillar to the one RB ditched?
No. It looks like it's for cooling purposes (most likely the pull rod damper). A few other teams have similar inlets.
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Mazdaboy wrote:Flow vis on the floor under the exhaust:
And they're still going back and forth with the exhaust angles.

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bhallg2k wrote:
Mazdaboy wrote:Flow vis on the floor under the exhaust:
And they're still going back and forth with the exhaust angles.
supposedly the reason is because the new exhaust and bodywork is arriving tonight and will be tested tomorrow...and because of the rain yesterday they didn't get to test the exhaust used in the first 4 races so they did that today...

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amouzouris wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:
Mazdaboy wrote:Flow vis on the floor under the exhaust:
And they're still going back and forth with the exhaust angles.
supposedly the reason is because the new exhaust and bodywork is arriving tonight and will be tested tomorrow...and because of the rain yesterday they didn't get to test the exhaust used in the first 4 races so they did that today...
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Gene said we were working on Sauber style exhausts.[/quote]

Who's Gene?

Crucial Extreme, who seems to be some sort of Jedi knight or something with all things Ferrari has continually and emphatically stated that this acer system is what they are going with. I may be totally on drugs with that conclusion, but I don't remember ever seeing him support a change from the acer system or the pull rod for that matter. Ive yet to see that guy miss the mark by much, so that's mostly how I have come to these conclusions.

Furthermore, why would they be jacking around with acer still and making all these expensive options and trying them if it was a sauber or macca solution they were running towards? None of the pics coming out of maranello or any race or any test have even hinted that they were abandoning the acer ducts. Please, show me the evidence they are going with sauber or macca solutions and I would be glad to shut up about it. The evidence just does not seem to support a change from acer. Please, prove me wrong. I welcome it. I just want something to work on this car no matter what the solution is.
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:OmniCorse reports Ferrari mechanics will work late into the day today as new parts will arrive from Maranello for Fernando to test tomorrow. :up:

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17593/ ... la-ferrari
I think I've seen this before today, but maybe not.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2456/ferrinlet.jpg
via Khan_F1
It looks like to me as we r seeing a crossover tunnel like one Red bull have in their car, but recently RB ditch them as it makes exhaust gas unstable and unpredictable......
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Chuckjr wrote:Gene said we were working on Sauber style exhausts.
Who's Gene?

Crucial Extreme, who seems to be some sort of Jedi knight or something with all things Ferrari has continually and emphatically stated that this acer system is what they are going with. I may be totally on drugs with that conclusion, but I don't remember ever seeing him support a change from the acer system or the pull rod for that matter. Ive yet to see that guy miss the mark by much, so that's mostly how I have come to these conclusions.

Furthermore, why would they be jacking around with acer still and making all these expensive options and trying them if it was a sauber or macca solution they were running towards? None of the pics coming out of maranello or any race or any test have even hinted that they were abandoning the acer ducts. Please, show me the evidence they are going with sauber or macca solutions and I would be glad to shut up about it. The evidence just does not seem to support a change from acer. Please, prove me wrong. I welcome it. I just want something to work on this car no matter what the solution is.[/quote]


the ACER duct remains i think 99% only modified moved towards front sligtly the question is how will the coanda ramp look like and of what material will be made!!!
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Gene said we were working on Sauber style exhausts.
Who's Gene?

Crucial Extreme, who seems to be some sort of Jedi knight or something with all things Ferrari has continually and emphatically stated that this acer system is what they are going with. I may be totally on drugs with that conclusion, but I don't remember ever seeing him support a change from the acer system or the pull rod for that matter. Ive yet to see that guy miss the mark by much, so that's mostly how I have come to these conclusions.

Furthermore, why would they be jacking around with acer still and making all these expensive options and trying them if it was a sauber or macca solution they were running towards? None of the pics coming out of maranello or any race or any test have even hinted that they were abandoning the acer ducts. Please, show me the evidence they are going with sauber or macca solutions and I would be glad to shut up about it. The evidence just does not seem to support a change from acer. Please, prove me wrong. I welcome it. I just want something to work on this car no matter what the solution is.
Marc Gene = test driver. He supposedly said it to some Spanish TV station. However, it is really hard to find the original source. Seems like rumor and hearsay. I mean, take a look at this query: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1__ ... 00&bih=785. The top result is this forum and the 4th result is Crucial Extreme's twitter handle :)

I agree with you that all the evidence points towards them pursuing the Acer solution. Pat Fry said during the pre-season tests that their original exhaust solution was promising but they were having issues with it so they would revisit it later (http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/03/02/pat- ... ble-shape/). Then the @InsideFerrari twitter handle has denied claims that they are moving towards the Sauber concept. And then obviously we have the visual evidence from this test where they've ran with the Acer ducts for the past couple of days. Who knows what they'll do tomorrow -- people at the track seem to believe that the new exhaust/bodywork won't show its head until the Spanish Grand Prix. Guess we'll wait and see.