Team: Pat Fry (TD), Nikolas Tombazis (CD), Stefano Domenicali (MD)
Drivers: Fernando Alonso (5), Felipe Massa (6)
yes, I believe those are temp. sensors. Evidently Ferrari needs to ensure the safety of the drivers !!!! pretty scarey to have those exhausts blown over those suspension arms.xpensive wrote:That is an elegant xhaust, but what's with those green stripes on the suspensionarms, temperature detectors?
It's incredible that Massa only expects 0,2-0,3s with the updatesamouzouris wrote:this were the upgrades...and add to that rear brake ducts...it was discussed a few pages backamouzouris wrote:ok so...in the mugello test we have seen:
2 new exhaust configurations tested
new rear wing
new beam wing
new engine cover
new turning vanes
new floor
and more upgrades are expected for Spain...
I think he is just realistic or cautious. F2012 haven't perform like they wanted in first 4 races, and now there was some improvement at Mugello. I think it is better to be cautious and have better car than you expected at next GPArtur Craft wrote:It's incredible that Massa only expects 0,2-0,3s with the updates
If nothing else, this is great. This means that engineers understand the car, they know what needs to be done and how... Fry&Co. looked pretty much lost 2 months ago, probably because they expected too much from original solution and expected for it to work flawlessly, now its heads down, chairs are getting worm, work is paying off... Bad thing is that it had to be that way from the start, but when life gives you lemons..."In a way it was a positive week and a positive test, because all the parts we put on, even if they were small in terms of performance, they worked as expected," he said.
"After some problems in the winter and last year, where we brought new parts for testing, six were working and four of them not working, here even if we only brought three or four, all were working as expected."
You're right Vanja, it is great for the team. Mugello has shown surely that we have a much better understanding of the car and even more so, the wind tunnel correlation is matching up with track data. =D>Vanja #66 wrote:
If nothing else, this is great. This means that engineers understand the car, they know what needs to be done and how... Fry&Co. looked pretty much lost 2 months ago, probably because they expected too much from original solution and expected for it to work flawlessly, now its heads down, chairs are getting worm, work is paying off... Bad thing is that it had to be that way from the start, but when life gives you lemons...
Team expects more from Barcelona updates, and that can be nothing but encouraging... I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Scarb's solution or something close to it will be seen in 8 days time...
They are testing regional highest temperatures on susspension.They don't need to know temperatures through times.Susspension material (carbon fibre or anything else) can sustain temperature to some point.Teams want to know do exhausts make overheating problems going above the temp. limit of materials.marcush. wrote:those are actually blue strips ,taped over with heat resistive electronics tape(polymide),presumably they do this to get rid of the hot air influencing the temperature reading ..(you want component temp ,don´t you?) I don´t understand why they don´t use temperature probes ..the stripes are accurate but you have no idea how long and when the temps are present...just local high readings...
http://temperature-indicators.co.uk/aca ... el_TDS.pdf
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebse ... xXCOrrrrQ-
the reaction time is 4 seconds !so you might not see true peaks?filtering can be dangerous...
Why not make statements to just get the press off their back. Let's see, we have a team that is just figuring out their car or a team that knows their car.... Who is most likely to be able to move forward with improvements?Hail22 wrote:Mulling through some articles and also reports from Ferrari ....
They wont be that reliable since the exhaust plume will cool at different rates. So you can't really map the flow of the exhaust, but you can map the temperature of it.bhallg2k wrote:I always thought the thermometer strips were most valuable for determining where the exhaust plume travels.
It's too early to know if your concept is wrong or not. I would not dismiss it too quickly. They may well have something like your theory coming into focus.bhallg2k wrote:Looks like my thoughts of an exhaust channel on the diffuser were just flat wrong.
I don't know whether to be disappointed that they don't have it or if I should be in some way elated, because, for all intents and purposes, I invented it. (I still really like the idea.)
Michael Schumacher is a Driver/Developer just like his role at Mercedes, if you noticed how pleased and happy he is when Rosberg and the team bode well in Grand prixs? regardless of his past races where he had gearbox problems, wheel fell off.Chuckjr wrote:
It's too early to know if your concept is wrong or not. I would not dismiss it too quickly. They may well have something like your theory coming into focus.
That said, well done Ferrari. =D> The work is paying off. Give Alonso a car he can fight with and nobody on the grid is safe. Was it not heir Schumacher that finally started to pull the team together at a similar moment in his F1 career at Ferrari? Maybe we are headed in a similar direction. [-o<
