No Respect

[Nando]

...edited as it's pointless.

[strad]

Getting along at a meeting isn't being friends

[SeijaKessen]

I'm not goin back over a couple of years of interviews to pluck out examples .. but they have said they don't hang out together ..never talk away from the track...except for a couple of rare exceptions....believe what you will I don't care.

Could you provide one example at least?

The interview quotes i posted are from Webber and he named 5 guys he get along with very well.

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Most of the guys seem to get along well. You can´t expect them to be best friends forever though as everyone in this world skips to a different beat.

the people who become friends skips to a similar beat.

If you notice, all of these pictures are at the track.

The days of Graham Hill, Bruce McLaren, and many others hanging out in a pub getting sloshed at night are long gone.

The drivers today are not friends because there is no sense of being in it together.

I have to agree with strad on this.

I think part of this is societal largely which is a much larger discussion as a whole. There are plenty of sports out there where guys are good friends and will hang out outside of the game. F1 is different in this regard now. I think part of it is the safety of racing nowadays. Drivers years ago knew any race weekend could be their last, and they genuinely cared about one another because they all knew they faced tremendous risks out there. I am not saying to go back to highly unsafe racing, but people tend to band together in all situations when the collective group is together facing a risk that does not discriminate against anyone. It didn't matter who you were, death was always lurking in the rearview mirror so to speak.

[thearmofbarlow]

Who, ultimately, gives a rat's ass about this? It matters precisely zero to me who hangs out with whom. Don't care. Get in the car and race. This isn't friggin' TMZ. It's F1.

[Websta]

I agree with Strad - talking to someone and sharing jokes doesn't make you friends. Of course there are exceptions and a few examples of true friends amongst the drivers, but you guys seem to be oversimplifying the definition of a friend.

[SeijaKessen]

Who, ultimately, gives a rat's ass about this? It matters precisely zero to me who hangs out with whom. Don't care. Get in the car and race. This isn't friggin' TMZ. It's F1.

To attempt to minimize this into being a non-issue, is to undermine a large aspect of the first 40+ years of F1.

[GrizzleBoy]

I agree with Strad - talking to someone and sharing jokes doesn't make you friends. Of course there are exceptions and a few examples of true friends amongst the drivers, but you guys seem to be oversimplifying the definition of a friend.

Especially when you're essentially at work, and in front of the camera where every little thing you do is blown out of any proportion possible in order to get viewers attention.

[Nando]

I agree with Strad - talking to someone and sharing jokes doesn't make you friends. Of course there are exceptions and a few examples of true friends amongst the drivers, but you guys seem to be oversimplifying the definition of a friend.

I think it´s more the OP that thinks all drivers are supposed to have pajamas parties every weekend together.

Some are friends, some are not. JUST LIKE IT WAS BACK IN THE DAY.

[xpensive]

As written before, things were different in them days, drivers knew they might get killed, guess that formed a certain bond?

[Nando]

As written before, things were different in them days, drivers knew they might get killed, guess that formed a certain bond?

Senna forgot that memo

I think it´s simply individual. Take Ronnie and Senna.

It doesn´t matter if they were running cardboard cars or todays cars.
Senna would be the aggressive one, risking things while Ronnie probably would back out.

Sure cars are safer today but you still to this day can´t make notable contact with the cars without you losing 45 points of downforce or similar.

Could anyone here honestly claim that the racing is harder today then it was in the late 80´s early 90´s? I think not.

Alonso is also pretty funny because he knows what he did to Vettel in Monza for example.
It´s no different then Senna putting his nose in taking both driver´s out risking both lives.

[xpensive]

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Senna would be the aggressive one, risking things while Ronnie probably would back out.
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Ronnie backing out? Yeah right...

[Nando]

Ronnie backing out? Yeah right...

Yea i think he would. He was quick but he wasn´t a fighter in the sense of Schumi, Alonso, Senna, Mansell etc.

[xpensive]

Guess you didn't see him taking an F2 chassis to the podium at the Nordschleife in 1972 or winning the 1976 Monza GP in a March?

Both magic.

[Nando]

Guess you didn't see him taking an F2 chassis to the podium at the Nordschleife in 1972 or winning the 1976 Monza GP in a March?

Both magic.

as i said, he´s a very fast driver. Probably the fastest guy to never win a championship.

I´m just talking about a fighter´s mentality. It´s a different thing to being quick.

I´m a swede myself so i know a thing or two about the swedish mentality overall.
Very very few are natural born fighters. Ronnie was not one of them.

[xpensive]

It's true that Ronnie was an unfit and lazy sob, more often than not dependent on Emerson or Mario to set up the car decently, but my god how he could hurl around just about anything without whining like Mansell about this and that.

That's my kind of mentality. Nu råkar jag faktiskt också vara svensk.