Ferrari F2012

[Teechnical]

Of all the new updates, which one was really the spark that helped improve the car? Or was it that they all were working in unison.
My opinion, exhaust and rear bodywork.

[italian]

I know, maybe it's a bit OT but we can't see often the heart of the F2012 via F1Sutton

[bhall]

That's never off-topic.

[Crabbia]

Anyone read anything about the damage or fault at the end of the race on Alonso's car that he referred to in the interview?

[donskar]

The updates work, but more DF needed at the rear. I wonder if they can get more DF from this basic design or will need to make more radical changes.

[bhall]

I don't know what more can be done considering the new rear end is almost completely different than what was present on the launch-spec F2012.

I'm also not exactly sure one can reasonably say that the car needs more downforce in that area. These tires play such a profound role in the car's performance that I think even the teams are having difficulty discerning what's a problem inherent to the car and what's a problem relating to its use of the tires.

[finishline]

Anyone read anything about the damage or fault at the end of the race on Alonso's car

I did see the kers graphic flash on and off very rapidly a couple of times during the race.

[Echo]

That ferrari was sooooooooo oversteery

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I don't know what more can be done considering the new rear end is almost completely different than what was present on the launch-spec F2012.

He knows. He was studying all of the cars yesterday getting ideas.





But yes it's a good question. What route for future updates do you think we'll take? I have a few ideas. I also think we'll see Ferrari DDRS in Canada. Marc Gene said no updates for Monaco, the next big Ferrari updates are in Canada.

[ing]

The updates work, but more DF needed at the rear. I wonder if they can get more DF from this basic design or will need to make more radical changes.

I think we got at glimpse of the future development plan from what was seen at the Mugello test:

- Day 3 was shake-down for the new exhaust configuration (used this weekend) which is a short term, low-risk solution to address the obvious faults of the ACER duct, etc.
- Day 2 was used to set baseline for comparison with next day's test.
- Day 1 was used to get some learning (as early as possible) on a longer-term, higher-risk, but potentially beneficial solution of blowing the diffuser with coanda effect.

[bhall]

What route for future updates do you think we'll take?

I quite honestly think it doesn't matter. Fortunes rise and fall this year on the whim of the rubber gods.

Five races; five different winners; five different philosophies.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

What route for future updates do you think we'll take?

I quite honestly think it doesn't matter. Fortunes rise and fall this year on the whim of the rubber gods.

Five races; five different winners; five different philosophies.

Yeah I mean I don't think there is a clear leader of the grid. Different cars different in different areas at different times with different temperatures & different conditions. Different enough eh?

I feel certain they have a development path selected. Only time will tell if it's the right one or not.

[Crabbia]

He knows. He was studying all of the cars yesterday getting ideas.

But yes it's a good question. What route for future updates do you think we'll take? I have a few ideas. I also think we'll see Ferrari DDRS in Canada. Marc Gene said no updates for Monaco, the next big Ferrari updates are in Canada.

I think he was looking at the front and rear of the bulls trying to figure out why they needed front wing changes.

[ing]

What route for future updates do you think we'll take?

I quite honestly think it doesn't matter. Fortunes rise and fall this year on the whim of the rubber gods.

Five races; five different winners; five different philosophies.

Yeah I mean I don't think there is a clear leader of the grid. Different cars different in different areas at different times with different temperatures & different conditions. Different enough eh?

Right. For example, the highest placed car with EBD was 5th today, so maybe it's not the magic bullet.

[Teechnical]

How is it possible to improve rear downforce? Any examples or suggestions?