Ferrari F2012

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Is the part in carbon fiber at the centre a part of the car or it's a part of the external structure? (in the second photo)

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ema00 wrote:Is the part in carbon fiber at the centre a part of the car or it's a part of the external structure? (in the second photo)
carbon fiber

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I think the reason for Ferrari being 0.6+ seconds off the pace was lack of fresh tyres, or not finding the sweet spot on those supersofts.
Were Ferrari out of fresh super softs?
"We have a new toy" - Fernando Alonso.

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Teechnical wrote:I think the reason for Ferrari being 0.6+ seconds off the pace was lack of fresh tyres, or not finding the sweet spot on those supersofts.
Were Ferrari out of fresh super softs?
Massa - No

Alonso - Yes
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Hail22 wrote:
Teechnical wrote:I think the reason for Ferrari being 0.6+ seconds off the pace was lack of fresh tyres, or not finding the sweet spot on those supersofts.
Were Ferrari out of fresh super softs?
Massa - No

Alonso - Yes
Fernando wasn't out of new tyres in Q3. Neither driver was.

The F2012 is still lacking low speed traction. The F2012 is amongst the fastest in the first 2 sectors & falls behind in the 3rd. The car still needs more DF.

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Both cars had no fresh tyres thats why massa and alonso were far back in q3

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ema00 wrote:Is the part in carbon fiber at the centre a part of the car or it's a part of the external structure? (in the second photo)
Seems not to me, some kind of housing.

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westech wrote:Both cars had no fresh tyres thats why massa and alonso were far back in q3
they had one, two used in Q2 and one for the Q3

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So, third for Alonso and top of the WDC. :D
i think this will sorta inspire the team to develop more parts for Canada and improve their pace.

We're looking at a new exhaust solution in Montreal right? Plus some other parts.
"We have a new toy" - Fernando Alonso.

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Teechnical wrote:So, third for Alonso and top of the WDC. :D
i think this will sorta inspire the team to develop more parts for Canada and improve their pace.

We're looking at a new exhaust solution in Montreal right? Plus some other parts.
Are we? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not being sarcastic, but where that info came from?

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Kiril Varbanov wrote: Are we? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not being sarcastic, but where that info came from?
Pat Fry said in the latest Scuderia Ferrari Racing News that there were FW & RW updates for Canada and also that Ferrari were working on new exhaust solutions and would test them. He didn't say in Canada, but you'd think probably Canada or Valencia.

The updates to the F2012 have made it much more competitive. It's one of the cars that are fairly easy on the tyres, maybe down to Hamashima. And the pull rod front suspension worked like a charm in Monaco. Sorry X. :p

Also interesting to note Felipe is using the new Red Bull style turning vanes(under nose) while Fernando continues to use the old ones.

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Pull rod has proven its reliability, sorry that debate has run its course :P

On Canada, revised SP, Updates to RD, new FW, New RW and possibly depending on the outcome of Mondays TWD...a new floor hole in front of the rear wheel?

If RBR gets away with it...its only fair everyone else can copy it to their vehicles.
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rjsa wrote:
ema00 wrote:Is the part in carbon fiber at the centre a part of the car or it's a part of the external structure? (in the second photo)
Seems not to me, some kind of housing.
Just some protection when swapping front wings I'd guess?

Just an aside, in terms of the front suspension "issue" being put to rest? The pull rod suspension was never an issue to begin with.

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I've been trying to figure out that structure, too. My first thought was that it could be a Daffy Duct adapter, a la Mercedes. But, it doesn't appear to have the type of openings necessary, and the nose is absent any inlets at all.

I don't know why the team would all of the sudden decide that the car requires any sort of added protection in that area in the event of a nose change. They've been fine without one for decades.

My best bet is that a Daffy Duct is coming, it's just not quite there yet. Because the F2012 was not designed with a Daffy Duct in mind, there were obviously no concessions made in the nose for the appropriate packaging. But, if you can take components that were previously affixed to the bulkhead itself and transfer them to a support structure away from the bulkhead - like the piece in question - you should be able to open up some space to work with.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote: Are we? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not being sarcastic, but where that info came from?
Pat Fry said in the latest Scuderia Ferrari Racing News that there were FW & RW updates for Canada and also that Ferrari were working on new exhaust solutions and would test them. He didn't say in Canada, but you'd think probably Canada or Valencia.

The updates to the F2012 have made it much more competitive. It's one of the cars that are fairly easy on the tyres, maybe down to Hamashima. And the pull rod front suspension worked like a charm in Monaco. Sorry X. :p

Also interesting to note Felipe is using the new Red Bull style turning vanes(under nose) while Fernando continues to use the old ones.
I see. I would be rather surprised to see new exhaust in Canada, given the development pace shown so far - their program is busy.
Yes, it's very important that the latest updates are working for both Massa and Alonso. Pull rod? I'm glad that it finally went away.