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Lewis Hamilton has won the Canadian GP, making the best of a two stop strategy. Romain Grosjean finished in second place with Sergio Pérez third on the podium. Sebatian Vettel finished fourth after a late pitstop while Fernando Alonso is 5th after struggling to the end on badly worn tyres.
Button has never been good at setup. What makes it worse, acording to sam michael, Button can't drive Hamilton's setup when it's a front grip biased one. It ended that Button had to look for his own setup on a circuit where you need more front grip.. so he was lost...marcush. wrote:according to whitmarsh Jenson had chosen a differnt rear suspension geometry to Hamilton which abused the rears more .He also had this problem with front lockup....I think they just blew the setup big time this weekend .
Button changed had an oil leak in FP1, and changed his gearbox before FP2 resulting in a grid drop.ajdavison2 wrote:Button didn't have a penalty, Maldonaldo did if you're getting confused between the 2? In the post race interview he plainly admitted that he didn't have the pace, couldn't keep the tires together and that he had no explanation.beelsebob wrote:Bear in mind, he had one quarter of the time everyone else had to set his car up, and a 5 place grid drop.nacho wrote:Button totally lost, weird things happening.
New nose is designed to give better airflow to the rear of the car, which is where Button prefers extra stability from greater downforce. His championship winning year was with the double diffuser, and last year when he bested Lewis the cars had the blown diffuser. Going back to the old nose wouldn't help his cause.Shrieker wrote:Maybe they need to give him the old nose back if he can fare better then he does now ?
Nope.beelsebob wrote:Button changed had an oil leak in FP1, and changed his gearbox before FP2 resulting in a grid drop.ajdavison2 wrote:Button didn't have a penalty, Maldonaldo did if you're getting confused between the 2? In the post race interview he plainly admitted that he didn't have the pace, couldn't keep the tires together and that he had no explanation.beelsebob wrote: Bear in mind, he had one quarter of the time everyone else had to set his car up, and a 5 place grid drop.
Not true. They don't run their race gearbox on Fridays so the gearbox change was free. He used his assigned race gearbox for Saturday and Sunday, so no penalty.beelsebob wrote:Button changed had an oil leak in FP1, and changed his gearbox before FP2 resulting in a grid drop.
Well, Hamilton certainly, Greasjean and Perez made it by preserving tyres, not sprinting. Of course *that* is what I want to see – tyres that allow you to do either, and have a chance with either.ringo wrote:He started tenth didnt he?
all the same, the young drivers did very well. Loved how the race ended.
This race was an all out sprint. There was no tyre saving, which is what i want to see. It's no surprised the agressive drivers came through.
THIS!!myurr wrote:Not true. They don't run their race gearbox on Fridays so the gearbox change was free. He used his assigned race gearbox for Saturday and Sunday, so no penalty.beelsebob wrote:Button changed had an oil leak in FP1, and changed his gearbox before FP2 resulting in a grid drop.
beelsebob wrote:I'm not sure... it's possible; but I think it has more to do with McLaren having figured out the tyres more – they seemed to manage to make them work over a full 10°C range this weekend. Bear in mind too, the Ferrari's tyres didn't go off until about 10 laps after Hamilton's pit stop, so they're still doing better than McLaren. Also, they went two laps longer in the first stint than Vettel while still putting in the fast laps, and kept it up better in their "second" stint.Ratatouille wrote:Hmm, could it be that Ferrari's tyre degradation has something to do with the new exhaust configuration?
Before, Ferrari seemed to have better degradation than Red Bull and much much better than Mclaren, and somewhere in the middle between Sauber. Today it seemed they had just 2-3 laps better tyre management than their direct competitors and much worse compared to the Sauber.
Could it be the exhaust plume acting on the tyres?
So really, combination of two things 1) McLaren sorted out their tyres better than in the past 2) Ferrari still had the properties you're talking about, it just was rather masked by a disastrous strategy call.
I guess at least this weekend he had an excuse for it thenbeelsebob wrote:As I said above, not much blowing to do – he only had a quarter as long as everyone else to figure out how to get it set up.marcush. wrote:according to whitmarsh Jenson had chosen a differnt rear suspension geometry to Hamilton which abused the rears more .He also had this problem with front lockup....I think they just blew the setup big time this weekend .
I never read into what Ron says, half the time what he says isn't what he means. Ronspeakfiohaa wrote:Out of Ron Dennis' own mouth - 'It is a lottery'.
This, coming from the most scientifically driven team on the grid. so there you go.
Only teams that played the lottery today were Red Bull and Ferrari.fiohaa wrote:Out of Ron Dennis' own mouth - 'It is a lottery'.
This, coming from the most scientifically driven team on the grid. so there you go.