It is no brainier that when the Pirelli Lottery tires go off they go off way to much. So Ferrari should have known this but I guess the pit wall needs some better strategists.
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Lewis Hamilton has won the Canadian GP, making the best of a two stop strategy. Romain Grosjean finished in second place with Sergio Pérez third on the podium. Sebatian Vettel finished fourth after a late pitstop while Fernando Alonso is 5th after struggling to the end on badly worn tyres.
"Felipe Baby"...... I dont think Alonso will allow him to call "Fernando Baby", Smedley might loose his job if he pulls something like this to Alonso.marcush. wrote:maybe Alonso just needs Smedley....but i guess he is already married to Felipe these days....
alonso said they went for the one stop because they knew they couldn't win on a 2 stop strategypisco wrote:Well or bad ???
Alonso said for Montecarlo "bet on red" and it was right !!! not for Monaco but fo Montreal. Ferrari crew dont believe in himand they dont stop Fernando
yep, could not believe that they called him in again so early, thought he had a problem, but no, that was their strategy....pocketmoon wrote:Anyone else think Mercedes were just way too conservative with Nico at this race ?
Being told to preserve tyres and fuel during the opening laps saw him running a second+ off the leading pace and then on lap 13 finds +1s for 5 laps before he pits. Perhaps MGP wary of the SSofts and then told to push before the change.
But then Nico was flying on the middle stint with his lap times showing no sign of falling off when he pitted at 37. For the four laps prior to pitting he was faster than Hami, Alonso, Masa... in fact he was pretty much fastest guy on the track.
Rob
FakeAlonso wrote:Alonso's graph looks like falling from a cliff in the last laps.
It is no brainier that when the Pirelli Lottery tires go off they go off way to much. So Ferrari should have known this but I guess the pit wall needs some better strategists.
Reading James Allen's analysis and watching the race live, they actually looked frozen by indecision. It was clear within two or three laps that Hamilton would easily catch them with or without the tyres going off, and with the DRS and McLaren's straight line speed it would have been relatively easy for him to pass. If there had been a safety car then they would have been able to get a free pit stop so it may have worked but that was a big gamble.ajdavison2 wrote:They went into a one stop because hamilton forced them into it, he left the pits with such pace, and they left it so late that if they had stopped they wouldve fallen back anyway, so they tried to brave it. Redbull eventually realised and pitted Vettel 7 laps from the end.
They pitted Nico as he caught up with the drivers in front of him. After the stop he put in more fast laps and managed to gain a few places because of the undercut.FrukostScones wrote:yep, could not believe that they called him in again so early, thought he had a problem, but no, that was their strategy....pocketmoon wrote:Anyone else think Mercedes were just way too conservative with Nico at this race ?
Being told to preserve tyres and fuel during the opening laps saw him running a second+ off the leading pace and then on lap 13 finds +1s for 5 laps before he pits. Perhaps MGP wary of the SSofts and then told to push before the change.
But then Nico was flying on the middle stint with his lap times showing no sign of falling off when he pitted at 37. For the four laps prior to pitting he was faster than Hami, Alonso, Masa... in fact he was pretty much fastest guy on the track.
Rob
it was indeed a bit strange imho
It's a drop off of around 0.2 seconds per lap, which is significant over a few laps but pretty easy to spot when it's happening and then react to it. You can see the start of it even before Vettel pitted, and I remember very clearly being able to spot it happening whilst watching the live timing. I have to admit to being stunned that Ferrari left him out, but clearly they thought they could manage it and bring the car home regardless.foxmulder_ms wrote:Looking at this graph, I dont see a "cliff" for Alonso at all. If anything, it is pretty gradual.
I would have thought the pace that Hamilton demonstrated would have shown that it wasn't going to work out for them. Had they pitted even 10 laps from the end then they would have been a few seconds behind Grosjean but on almost new supersofts, with 10 laps to hunt him down and reclaim second. You could clearly see by that point that Alonso's tyres were going off and Vettels were just showing signs of going.raymondu999 wrote:They probably thought saving the stop would be worth more than the fresh tyres.
Around this circuit, with such a short pitstop delta (something like 14s) so many traction zones which benefit from fresh rubber, and the ease compared to other circuits of overtaking, I'm surprised a 1-stop even worked for some people. As a gamble, possibly. As a planned strategy I'm surprised it was even considered.
