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Team: Pat Fry (TD), Nikolas Tombazis (CD), Stefano Domenicali (MD)
Drivers: Fernando Alonso (5), Felipe Massa (6)
They've been on the car for quite a few GP's. Interesting they changed the floor, with an additional scoop almost midway on the floor.amouzouris wrote:^^ they used the diffuser extensions that are attached on the rw...
I would think it has something to do with the new bargeboards/side pod shields. They're turning the air differently further upstream so the have modified the floor to suit the new flow.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:They've been on the car for quite a few GP's. Interesting they changed the floor, with an additional scoop almost midway on the floor.amouzouris wrote:^^ they used the diffuser extensions that are attached on the rw...
I don't believe there was a new modified exhaust for Valencia. I think the perspective of the picture made many think it was new. I don't believe Ferrari would put it on the car on Thursday and then not use it on Friday or Saturday. Doesn't make sense. All pictures from Friday show the Canadian GP spec exhaust.f1316 wrote:So, it would appear that neither of the more obvious updates were used in Valencia - by which I mean the modified exhaust (with the additional cooling vent in the side of the bulge and possibly slightly different exhaust angle) and the front wing with the new endplates - were used in the race.
Whilst it's by no means certain these things are ever going to work straight out of the box, this is the first time in a few races the ferrari's updates haven't, so you wonder if this relative "standing still" in development in just one race is the type of thing that makes the difference between Q2 and Q3. It turns out that having the new sets of tyres in the race was imperative, as it was for Raikonnen in Bahrain, so I don't think you can call it a tactical error not to use them in Q2, but what you do seem to require is the extra speed to be able to preserve tyres whilst still getting through the sessions. Vettel did the same strategy and only just made it through, only to go on to do a great lap in Q3, such are the margins.
But this relates to the car since it shows just how vital it is to make these small gains in virtually every race, and you wonder if this has contributed to the decision to run a straight line test *prior* to Silverstone, so that they can be more sure of correlation during the race weekend. These endplates are diverting air around the tyres, so presumably the success or lack thereof of such a part is relatively clear in a straight line? You would imagine that if successful this would reduce drag and thus increase straight line speed - something Alonso singled out as still an issue after qualifying.
On a related by silightly off-topic note: are they still testing in Silverstone after the GP? I haven't heard any definitive word on this yet.
Almost anything is possible but not probable. I doubt it. It would mean a total change in bodywork & parts starting from the front wing all the way back to the rear wing. Almost a completely different car would be needed.PABLOEING wrote:¿Is possibel a new floor like the Valencia RB8 in the F2012 in Ferrari for silverstone?
I agree with you. It would have been nice a RB8 similar solution but that will require almost a new car. At least they can bring enough update to reduce the gap to RB8. Rumor is RB has found app 0.4 sec with the new upgrade.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Almost anything is possible but not probable. I doubt it. It would mean a total change in bodywork & parts starting from the front wing all the way back to the rear wing. Almost a completely different car would be needed.PABLOEING wrote:¿Is possibel a new floor like the Valencia RB8 in the F2012 in Ferrari for silverstone?
The blowing never went away! It is still there, RB are maximising it more than others.PABLOEING wrote:....and a lot of people in the Valencia circuit said that the RB8 sound like the 2011 RB7........
+1 X2, it also need to be crashed tested and for a change like this margin Ferrari's 2013 contender will suffer i belive. as it not only a new concept for Ferrari but for now when F2012 started to show its potential i dont think they will even tempted to think about this.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Almost anything is possible but not probable. I doubt it. It would mean a total change in bodywork & parts starting from the front wing all the way back to the rear wing. Almost a completely different car would be needed.PABLOEING wrote:¿Is possibel a new floor like the Valencia RB8 in the F2012 in Ferrari for silverstone?
Ferrari clearly need to find a few tenths to be competitive with RB. The new FW would help. I;m very interested to see what our response is in Silverstone to the Valencia RB updates.
Agreed. And that's what many aren't thinking about. It's not often you can just bolt on something from one F1 car onto another and expect it to work straight away like it does on the original. Ferrari would have to use a different aero philosophy with how they're working the air which is a lot of work.F1.Ru wrote:
+1 X2, it also need to be crashed tested and for a change like this margin Ferrari's 2013 contender will suffer i belive. as it not only a new concept for Ferrari but for now when F2012 started to show its potential i dont think they will even tempted to think about this.
Another thing is that those floor even /might not work well with F2012 like they do in RB8, caz every bit of a car in F1 is purposefully created and they all are so integrated that sometimes they even create negative effect from a fairly good update and some times some negative effect create altogether a positive outcome i.e. lift created by the sidepod extension but which is negated by the amount of downforce they help to create..............