CERN discovers new particle. Higgs boson?

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I forgot to mention the concept of dark matter, spacetime and its warping. So much is still unknown, or at least so much that astronomers and physicists have speculated over the past century or so.
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The idea that I'm physically connected to everything because of dark matter is another brain-bender.

While it's obviously an exciting time to be around for these discoveries, I lament that I'll very likely not be around when people finally know everything, when, for instance, the Planck epoch is as well-understood as boiling water.

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Yeah, the Planck time at the beginning of the universe is one mystery wrapped in an enigma, as gravity had significant effects in that time period. Dark matter puzzles me because nothing about it is clear, they only came up with the rough estimate of its content in the universe to complete an equation on why was nt everything falling into each other due to gravity, and logically define the movement of stars on the edges of galaxies. Who knows, the TOE may be just around the corner with some one having a brain wave sitting in a tub :) or may be nobody will be able to know..ever.
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ds.raikkonen wrote:... or may be nobody will be able to know..ever.
This would be such a shame... We've come a long way (surely lots more to go) and we must carry on and survive. As long as we can manage that I'm optimistic [-o<
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Great shot of the Milky way.

At first it´s just dust everywhere, then when you zoom in you see that it´s just more stars, incredible.
http://www.astrosurf.com/sguisard/Pagim/GC.html
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More stars than sand grains you'd find on a typical beach, literally. We are so insignificant...
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Shrieker wrote:More stars than sand grains you'd find on a typical beach, literally. We are so insignificant...
To echo your sentiment on our insignificance I think this link really puts it into perspective:

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/scale_ ... verse_2012
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Isn´t everything we see also just essentially vibrations?
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Nando wrote:Isn´t everything we see also just essentially vibrations?
In some way it is, but it's relative. Some things I see I can also feel, and most of these thing do not vibrate.
Aaaaah physics :mrgreen:

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Tomba - Using old school physics those things have energy, hence they vibrate. or are you prone to feeling objects at absolute zero? Of course they're not at absolute zero once you've imparted energy by feeling them.

Using quantum physics, isn't everything just vibrating energy in various states, even the stuff we perceive as "solid"?

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Yes i think so. Atoms are the building blocks of the universe but the building blocks of atoms are strings that vibrate.
So everything is vibrations from what i understand.

I also read something about quantum physics but can´t remember it well,
It was something like 2 people watching a particle or atom and it would look different to both people despite both of them looking at it at the same time.

I´ll see if i can find more on that.

Edit: some snippets from a simracing forum,
And then there is the quantum world where scale goes the other way. Blow up a typical orange to the size of the earth and the average atom in/on that orange would appear approximately the size of a cherry. Inside each of those cherries, there is a nucleus, that if we were to blow that up to a foot across, would have an electron orbiting it at a distance of about 11 miles for a typical hydrogen atom, for example. And the electron, for all intents and purposes, has no measurable radius (this is debated often). The nucleus of the atom is also mostly space. In fact, when it comes down to it, it might look more like "information" than matter.
Physics is full of wickedly interesting and awesome things. That's what I like most about it.

About antimatter, antimatter is like the oppposite of matter. While protons have a +charge and electrons have a -charge, with anti-matter it's the the other way - anti-protons have a -charge and positrons(anti-matter equivalents of electrons) have a +charge. Anti-matter has been created in labs(anti-particles and even anti-hydrogen and anti-helium have been created artificially) but only for short moments as anti-matter is extremely hard to preserve. Why?

Because when anti-matter comes into contact with matter, both almost immediately annihilate and convert into pure energy(gamma rays). As our universe is made of matter, anti-matter is extremely hard to make and preserve as at the moment it collides with matter, it is gone.

Then there's the big problem: why does our universe consist of matter? When the universe came into existance, both anti-matter and matter should've been created in almost equal amounts as experiments have shown. Many physicists believe, though, that matter is dominant on our universe because of a tiny-tiny asymmetry in the creation ratios of matter and anti-matter.
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Here´s a nice video on Quantum physics. Collapsing the probability field.
Extremely interesting stuff i have to say.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7 ... r_embedded#![/youtube]

This one is more about space but well worth the watch.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8P ... r_embedded[/youtube]

Another thing i find interesting it that if you could somehow keep a brain(or person however you want to look at it)
alive and connect it to a computer you could essentially fool that brain into thinking he was alive and had a body.

Our brain can´t see, our eyes do then send signals to the brain and then it draws up a picture.
Your brain can´t hear in the same sense as well, also just signals.
Feel the same.

Everything really. Which is why we could live in a simulated world and we would never even know :)
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No doubt this is annother great discovery in the history of humanity :)
Now All the Challenge is to proove the existance of the strings and the possible Parrallel Universes ,Supersymmetric Particles , Dark Matter ..There is a plenty of things still to be discovered
As someone said :
The More we Learn, The Less we know..
The task is,not so much to see what no one has yet seenbut to think what nobody has yet thought, about that which everybody sees. Erwin Schrödinger

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White blood cell chasing bacteria around :) it almost looks intelligent, like it has an assignment to do, an order sort of.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUih856vaQY&feature=plcp[/youtube]
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