Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[Huntresa]

Also its impossible to see that the tubes are going either way in that pic, but we could clearly see in barcelona where they came from.

[siskue2005]

How does it show that, also that is illegal...

I Dont know if its legal or not, but an article about similar thing in W02, which they tested at Japan 2011

scarb's article http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2011/10/21/me ... ront-wing/

there is also an official F1.com article, which i cant find!

I think they have intergrated that system also
see this pic

[Joie de vivre]

even with that system they are rubbish

[Huntresa]

That system is still illegal and thats why they arent using it, they tried it in Japan just to see if they can stall the FW and gain something from it and i guess they found they could so they built a legal version.

[wunderkind]

The thing that surprised me most about the total lack of performance of the W03 in the Hungaroring is that they never got any of the tyres to work at all in any phase of the race. Soft, prime, and hard, you name it. None of the worked on the W03.

[siskue2005]

That system is still illegal and thats why they arent using it, they tried it in Japan just to see if they can stall the FW and gain something from it and i guess they found they could so they built a legal version.

What about the pic i posted from Hungary 2012 friday free practice? you can clearly see 2 tubes coming from the tip of nose
if you didnt see it here it is again

Rather than saying its illegal why dont you post the specific rule about it?
and No where in Scrab's site or f1 site it says its illegal!

[Jackles-UK]

Aren't those just the tubes coming down from the rear wing as part of the 'original' DDRS?

I have to agree with Huntresa. Seeing as they already have that system installed (and the benefits don't appear to be enormous anyway) I see no real reason why they would pursue a supplementary system which both drivers said made the car a handful through fast turns.

[yener]

Pfff come on guys. Read the earlier posts and you will find out why the tubes are there. It's not illegal btw.

[siskue2005]

Aren't those just the tubes coming down from the rear wing as part of the 'original' DDRS?

Then why should the tube come all the way to the tip of the nose? see the pic i posted
If it was just DDRS it should just turn down to the wing pylon and go to the wing to nlow it
but here there is an extra 2 tubes coming from the tip of nose!

[Huntresa]

Aren't those just the tubes coming down from the rear wing as part of the 'original' DDRS?

Then why should the tube come all the way to the tip of the nose? see the pic i posted
If it was just DDRS it should just turn down to the wing pylon and go to the wing to nlow it
but here there is an extra 2 tubes coming from the tip of nose!

Cause that pic has a car that is smashed at the front and the tubes go down via the pylons, pylons that stretch pretty far forward on the nose.

[Huntresa]

Pfff come on guys. Read the earlier posts and you will find out why the tubes are there. It's not illegal btw.

It is illegal, you arent allowed to use the hole at the nose for anything else then cooling for driver.

[bhall]

I've always maintained that any front wing vents on the W03 are fed from the scoop on top of the chassis. Legality aside, it's solution that makes sense for its purpose.

[Huntresa]

I've always maintained that any front wing vents on the W03 are fed from the scoop on top of the chassis. Legality aside, it's solution that makes sense for its purpose.

Yeah.

[Owen.C93]

I've always maintained that any front wing vents on the W03 are fed from the scoop on top of the chassis. Legality aside, it's solution that makes sense for its purpose.

But we've seen the tubes coming from the rear wing over the gearbox and along the sides of the car into the nose cone. I don't see why they would use the scoop or why there isn't any ducting for it in the nose cone or bulkhead.

[bhall]

It's all right there.

(Click to enlarge)

I think rear wing stuff is just a fluidic switch. Otherwise, I don't see how air can be inducted from a parallel stream then routed through end plates, a beam wing, and a maze of other duct work all the way to the front of the car and still have useful energy left over to do anything meaningful. Combined with an assumption that Mercedes is following the letter of the law regarding allowable uses for nose inlets, there's really only one conclusion to be made here.

(Of course, I also think the system is used in a manner that's exactly opposite to the widely-held current notion. I think the front wing requires vented flow to produce downforce and that opening DRS stops that air flow and stalls the front wing. But, that's another subject altogether.)